Season expectations

[RSS61]

On the evidence of yesterdays game at Palace, coupled with Chelsea / Man Utd, and probably City tonight, then I think we still have a way to go be recognised as nailed on top 4. Man Utd and Chelsea won at a canter, whereas as always, we were hanging on for dear life in the end. We really should have scored at least 3.

In my opinion to be certain of 4th spot or better, we need another RB / CB, LB , creative midfielder & striker.

Assuming that Bale is going this week or next, then I think we will get some more quality in. Only then will we have the ability to win all those games that Bale did for us last year.

The newer players still need to settle down and they need to get know each other. As time goes on they will getter better and better.

Yes I agree with that, its just that assuming Bale goes, then I think we need another striker, ie Willian or better still Lamela. Aside from that, our defence is not top top quality. Both full backs need proper competition if we are to have a really solid defence.

[Glenn R]

On the evidence of yesterdays game at Palace, coupled with Chelsea / Man Utd, and probably City tonight, then I think we still have a way to go be recognised as nailed on top 4. Man Utd and Chelsea won at a canter, whereas as always, we were hanging on for dear life in the end. We really should have scored at least 3.

In my opinion to be certain of 4th spot or better, we need another RB / CB, LB , creative midfielder & striker.

Assuming that Bale is going this week or next, then I think we will get some more quality in. Only then will we have the ability to win all those games that Bale did for us last year.

The newer players still need to settle down and they need to get know each other. As time goes on they will getter better and better.

Yes I agree with that, its just that assuming Bale goes, then I think we need another striker, ie Willian or better still Lamela. Aside from that, our defence is not top top quality. Both full backs need proper competition if we are to have a really solid defence.

By the looks of it we are on the right track.

Gary Linker made a good point. They are either spending the money for Bale or spending the money to keep Bale. Interesting!

[RSS61]

The newer players still need to settle down and they need to get know each other. As time goes on they will getter better and better.

Juts like last year!

With the exception that we've got more skilled and better players.

Yes Voice, you are right. If we go on to get Wilian, Lamela and Contrao, then we will have a squad as good as any in the prem.

Also, we might just have removed the "loser mentality" nucleus from the club. How often in the past have we failed to overcome teams when it really mattered. Hopefully the players AVB has brought in can have no such fears of failure and realise that football is a game of 11 v 11 and no more. The rest is all mental. Ask SAF

[Glenn R]

The newer players still need to settle down and they need to get know each other. As time goes on they will getter better and better.

Juts like last year!

With the exception that we've got more skilled and better players.

Yes Voice, you are right. If we go on to get Wilian, Lamela and Contrao, then we will have a squad as good as any in the prem.

Also, we might just have removed the "loser mentality" nucleus from the club. How often in the past have we failed to overcome teams when it really mattered. Hopefully the players AVB has brought in can have no such fears of failure and realise that football is a game of 11 v 11 and no more. The rest is all mental. Ask SAF

To be fair I think we lost that loser mentality last season. Just look at our two games against United, our home game against Ars*nal etc.

[Paul Finch]

The newer players still need to settle down and they need to get know each other. As time goes on they will getter better and better.

Juts like last year!

With the exception that we've got more skilled and better players.

Yes Voice, you are right. If we go on to get Wilian, Lamela and Contrao, then we will have a squad as good as any in the prem.

Also, we might just have removed the "loser mentality" nucleus from the club. How often in the past have we failed to overcome teams when it really mattered. Hopefully the players AVB has brought in can have no such fears of failure and realise that football is a game of 11 v 11 and no more. The rest is all mental. Ask SAF

To be fair I think we lost that loser mentality last season. Just look at our two games against United, our home game against Ars*nal etc.

     
 
       How can you possibly say that we lost that loser mentality last season, when we were so far ahead of the Arse in the league and still failed to qualify for Champions League, what a complete crock of s**t, 3 games do not a season make, had we have qualified for CL I might have agreed with you, we didn't and consequently I don't!!
 
 

[Glenn R]

The newer players still need to settle down and they need to get know each other. As time goes on they will getter better and better.

Juts like last year!

With the exception that we've got more skilled and better players.

Yes Voice, you are right. If we go on to get Wilian, Lamela and Contrao, then we will have a squad as good as any in the prem.

Also, we might just have removed the "loser mentality" nucleus from the club. How often in the past have we failed to overcome teams when it really mattered. Hopefully the players AVB has brought in can have no such fears of failure and realise that football is a game of 11 v 11 and no more. The rest is all mental. Ask SAF

To be fair I think we lost that loser mentality last season. Just look at our two games against United, our home game against Ars*nal etc.

     
 
       How can you possibly say that we lost that loser mentality last season, when we were so far ahead of the Arse in the league and still failed to qualify for Champions League, what a complete crock of s**t, 3 games do not a season make, had we have qualified for CL I might have agreed with you, we didn't and consequently I don't!!
 
 

I'll tell you how I can say that. When we used to be losing - in the past - we sort of gave up. Look at the game against Utd at White Hart Lane. We had a few minutes to go and we kept fighting and finally scored a goal. Just because we were ahead of Ars*nal doesn't mean we had lost the fighting spirit. Look at the gap between City and Utd. You can't say Utd gave up but City were even at the end of the season and just won it with a few seconds to spare. Other matches we had we won it in the last minutes.

[Metalanimal]

Last season for me it wasnt the losing mentality that so badly effected us in the past that lost us 4th spot it was due to the fact of a few too many games that we should have won we either drew or lost due to trying to defend a 1 goal lead.  Look at the Everton game the 2 quick goals conceeded at the end of the match!

The team and the squad have in my opinion lost that losing mentality but last season paid for not playing our attacking game until the final whistle blows and opted to defend a poxy 1 goal lead, also the inability to finish teams off that we dominated!

I believe that this season with our new attacking options our domination of games will result in 3 points instead of 1 or zero as was the case a lot last season.

[spursjoolz]

       How can you possibly say that we lost that loser mentality last season, when we were so far ahead of the Arse in the league and still failed to qualify for Champions League, what a complete crock of s**t, 3 games do not a season make, had we have qualified for CL I might have agreed with you, we didn't and consequently I don't!!
 
 

We definitely became stronger mentally as the season went on. The fact that we lost our lead was due to other factors, not because we gave up up fighting.  You seem to forget the injuries to key players at crucial times.

I watched a totally different Spurs last season from the weak, submissive team that I have know for so many years to a much harder bunch. This season will show much more of this, with or without Bale or Willian.

[RSS61]

Another factor I think was our habit of dominating teams for half the game and failing to score. Eventually we would get all negative. Hopefully our recent signings will help overcome this.

[Paul Finch]

        Guys, I am sorry but you all seem to have missed the point, unfortunately last season we still had the losing mentality, I agree we did come back from being down in games to win, BUT, we still lost games against sides that we should have beaten comfortably, and some of those were at home, which consequently cost us 4th place and a spot in CL, and that my friends is how we as a club will and are judged, and no amount of excuses can change. Please do not make the excuse that the bottom teams are always the hardest to beat, because that is a cop-out, when other teams manage to beat them convincingly.
        However, with the signings that have been made so far this window, I think we will be feared and we won't be accused of having a losing mentality when we get to the pointed end of this season.         
       This of course is only my opinion, albeit an educated one. I am sure there will be some that agree and others that will disagree.
 
 

[RSS61]

        Guys, I am sorry but you all seem to have missed the point, unfortunately last season we still had the losing mentality, I agree we did come back from being down in games to win, BUT, we still lost games against sides that we should have beaten comfortably, and some of those were at home, which consequently cost us 4th place and a spot in CL, and that my friends is how we as a club will and are judged, and no amount of excuses can change. Please do not make the excuse that the bottom teams are always the hardest to beat, because that is a cop-out, when other teams manage to beat them convincingly.
        However, with the signings that have been made so far this window, I think we will be feared and we won't be accused of having a losing mentality when we get to the pointed end of this season.         
       This of course is only my opinion, albeit an educated one. I am sure there will be some that agree and others that will disagree.
 
 

Well I agree with you there. Last nights game is a good example. In the past we would have gone 2-0 up, conceded early in 2nd half, then struggled to win 2-1. This time we smashed them. How many times have we done that in the past ? even though I know the opposition were crap. We never gave them a chance to get back into it.

[Paul Finch]

   RSS61,
             That is exactly my point!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
 

[Glenn R]

        Guys, I am sorry but you all seem to have missed the point, unfortunately last season we still had the losing mentality, I agree we did come back from being down in games to win, BUT, we still lost games against sides that we should have beaten comfortably, and some of those were at home, which consequently cost us 4th place and a spot in CL, and that my friends is how we as a club will and are judged, and no amount of excuses can change. Please do not make the excuse that the bottom teams are always the hardest to beat, because that is a cop-out, when other teams manage to beat them convincingly.
        However, with the signings that have been made so far this window, I think we will be feared and we won't be accused of having a losing mentality when we get to the pointed end of this season.         
       This of course is only my opinion, albeit an educated one. I am sure there will be some that agree and others that will disagree.
 
 

You say that we lost to teams that we shouldn't have; but doesn't that go for all the top teams? I find those that are the most dangerous are those we are expected to win. But I don't agree we had the losing mentality. I do agree that we used to have it.

Wigan beat us 1-0 but won the FA Cup and who did they beat to win the FA Cup and where did City finish in the league. That is just one example of many.

[Glenn R]

        Guys, I am sorry but you all seem to have missed the point, unfortunately last season we still had the losing mentality, I agree we did come back from being down in games to win, BUT, we still lost games against sides that we should have beaten comfortably, and some of those were at home, which consequently cost us 4th place and a spot in CL, and that my friends is how we as a club will and are judged, and no amount of excuses can change. Please do not make the excuse that the bottom teams are always the hardest to beat, because that is a cop-out, when other teams manage to beat them convincingly.
        However, with the signings that have been made so far this window, I think we will be feared and we won't be accused of having a losing mentality when we get to the pointed end of this season.         
       This of course is only my opinion, albeit an educated one. I am sure there will be some that agree and others that will disagree.
 
 

Well I agree with you there. Last nights game is a good example. In the past we would have gone 2-0 up, conceded early in 2nd half, then struggled to win 2-1. This time we smashed them. How many times have we done that in the past ? even though I know the opposition were crap. We never gave them a chance to get back into it.

To be fair they weren't great opposition. Wait to we face a fighting side at home (their home) and see if we can say the same.

[Paul Finch]

        Guys, I am sorry but you all seem to have missed the point, unfortunately last season we still had the losing mentality, I agree we did come back from being down in games to win, BUT, we still lost games against sides that we should have beaten comfortably, and some of those were at home, which consequently cost us 4th place and a spot in CL, and that my friends is how we as a club will and are judged, and no amount of excuses can change. Please do not make the excuse that the bottom teams are always the hardest to beat, because that is a cop-out, when other teams manage to beat them convincingly.
        However, with the signings that have been made so far this window, I think we will be feared and we won't be accused of having a losing mentality when we get to the pointed end of this season.         
       This of course is only my opinion, albeit an educated one. I am sure there will be some that agree and others that will disagree.
 
 

You say that we lost to teams that we shouldn't have; but doesn't that go for all the top teams? I find those that are the most dangerous are those we are expected to win. But I don't agree we had the losing mentality. I do agree that we used to have it.

Wigan beat us 1-0 but won the FA Cup and who did they beat to win the FA Cup and where did City finish in the league. That is just one example of many.

      Yes Voice you are quite right they did beat us 1-0 at WHL, and yes they did beat Man City to win the FA Cup, but are they playing PL this year? NO they are not! Why? because they got relegated, that is why. The reason that they got relegated was because they didn't win enough games. One of the few games they won was against US. Did any of the other Top Teams lose to them? I don't think so, why? because they had a winning mentality when they played struggling teams. Two of the Teams that were relegated took points off of us, had they not, we would be playing CL this season and we wouldn't be in danger of losing our BEST PLAYER!!!!!