A conflict of interest.

[Glenn R]

Voice on the England job and 'Arry it was simple mathmatics Levy wanted £10 million plus compensation WBA wanted about £3 million and to a cash strapped FA it was a no brainer, plus all the top clubs have managers that is why none of them came in for him. If I remember rightly when AVB was sacked at Chelski 'Arry's name was mentioned then but Chelski were told to back off by Levy so there you have it you can only get a top job if one is available !!!!
 
 

That is absolute rubbish. They - England - didn't want him. Levy was never approached and the £10 million was paper speculation.

Again that was paper speculation about Harry going to Chelsea. Trust me, if Chelsea wanted Harry when AVB was sacked Levy would have been glad to pass him over to them. The simple answer is they and other top clubs didn't want him. You are clutching at straws.

[Glenn R]

Voice, you are quite right this is an open forum, not just for me or you, and I am sure there are a lot of people who like me read all of the topics that have had additions to them, the topic of Harry has been covered in so many, it is now becoming boring, we can all make arguments for and against both him and AVB, and personally I think that it is time for the topic of Harry to be put too bed for once and for all.


  Merry Xmas to all who read this.

 

But it is boring for you but I am new here and enjoying the debate. As I said above there may come a time when I also agree with you. But then when that happens I'll just move on instead of making derogatory comments that are not relevant.

Just a matter of interest; no matter how boring you found this topic it didn't stop you and others joining in on the debate. Like feeding a fire that you want so desperately out. You are pouring gasoline on the fire to keep it alive.

[dimexi]

In general I agree with Finch. This argument is boring, which is what I was getting at originally. Somehow, I have been dragged back into the realms of inconsistent and unsubstantiated arguments. I think I will leave it there.

If the thread is boring to you then don't get involved. I am new here so I find it interesting and am enjoying the debate. Of course there may come a time when I also will find the Harry thread boring, when that comes I'll leave it instead of making derogatory comments that isn't really helpful or relevant.

I was saying the argument is becoming boring, because we were all saying the same things as before. My comments are as much self-directed as to anyone else. Due to the nature of us talking about situations that we are not privy to or are thinking about what could have been. Nothing derogatory there.

I would rather we got back to the thread topic of analyzing the quality of play. Which against Stoke was not exactly inspiring once again!

I agree it wasn't a brilliant game but there was some positive points and don't forget that Stoke has one of the best defences in the league.

As for getting back to the thread topic; nobody is stopping you. It was you that decided to side track and then moan about it. Not me or some others.

Actually it was Baldbloke that brought up Harry. My comments before this point was in relation to our style of play and how we view the current side and the way they have been playing recently. Finch just pointed out how we had gone off track and I have taken him up on it.

[dimexi]

So the next game against a side which let in 8 goals. With the way we have been playing, I think we may be able to win this won. Although I do not expect us to score more than 1 or 2.

[Glenn R]

I was saying the argument is becoming boring, because we were all saying the same things as before. My comments are as much self-directed as to anyone else. Due to the nature of us talking about situations that we are not privy to or are thinking about what could have been. Nothing derogatory there.

To you, but I was enjoying it and still am.

Actually it was Baldbloke that brought up Harry. My comments before this point was in relation to our style of play and how we view the current side and the way they have been playing recently. Finch just pointed out how we had gone off track and I have taken him up on it.

That is the nature of forums. Different styles, different ways and temperaments and you’ve got what we have here. Life Jim, but not as we know it!

Merry Christmas again my friend.

[baldbloke]

 (Harry couldn't take us further that is why he was dismissed.)
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Rubbish, know one including myself knows why he was sacked, but here is my theory, and I am rarely wrong about anything. Arry was sacked because he wanted some money in order he could push ahead. Levy didn't share his ambition and just wanted to make some dosh during the summer window (which he did).
Why the hell do you think Levy would sack Arry based on team performance, after lifting us from a bottom side to a top 4 side and taking us to the CL quarter final. There aren't many certainties in life, but Arry NOT being sacked for the performance of the team is one of them. 

[Glenn R]

Rubbish, know one including myself knows why he was sacked, but here is my theory, and I am rarely wrong about anything. Arry was sacked because he wanted some money in order he could push ahead. Levy didn't share his ambition and just wanted to make some dosh during the summer window (which he did).

You are “rarely wrong”? That is a statement! I have found that you are usually not right and your theory is preposterous. Unless you talked to Harry or Levy it will be just bulls**t (your theory is based on your love for Harry and hatred for AVB; and that is because he got sacked form Chelsea). As I said in a previous post I was told that he was brought in to sort out our problems and get us out of relegation. As for “know [sic] one” knows why he was sacked is partly true, however, we can make an educated guess. We can look at his previous managerial record, his dealings and what I was told why he was brought in and make an almost watertight assumption. On top of that nobody – no other football club – came in for him. If he was such a gold mine then others would be jumping all over him to get him to join a big club; only struggling QPR wanted him to help them do what he did for Spurs; save them from relegation.

Why the hell do you think Levy would sack Arry based on team performance, after lifting us from a bottom side to a top 4 side and taking us to the CL quarter final. There aren't many certainties in life, but Arry NOT being sacked for the performance of the team is one of them.

He was sacked, as I had previously said, because he couldn’t take Spurs to another level. How did Spurs manage 4th spot? Luck. Chelsea faltered, so did Liverpool and City wasn’t there yet. I can’t prove it but my analysing of the situation draws that conclusion; an educated conclusion.

[baldbloke]

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Rubbish, know one including myself knows why he was sacked, but here is my theory, and I am rarely wrong about anything.

Just because I'm not right, doesn't mean I'm wrong

As I said in a previous post I was told that he was brought in to sort out our problems and get us out of relegation.

You were told this by who ?. A bloke up the pub, your sisters boyfriend, your dogs best friend. Arry is known world wide as one of the best managers. Players love him and want to play for him, and he was the publics' and the media's number one choice for England manager. You may not like him because he may be a bit dodgy, and that's your choice. I judge a manager on his results, and don't give a toss if he eats children.

no other football club – came in for him.

Could it be there were no vacancies ?

He was sacked, as I had previously said, because he couldn’t take Spurs to another level. How did Spurs manage 4th spot? Luck. Chelsea faltered, so did Liverpool and City wasn’t there yet. I can’t prove it but my analysing of the situation draws that conclusion; an educated conclusion.

Ridiculous statement. We didn't finish 4th once, we finished fourth twice, and we also finished 5th once the same year as we got to the quarter finals of the CL. No manager is that lucky. No, Arry couldn't take us to the next level, and no manager could without Levy actually spending some money. I believe this is exactly what Arry told Levy and that's why he was sacked. Our performances under Arry were beautiful, and our results were the best for many many years, and you still didn't like him. That is your choice, but I find it very hard to figure out. In stead you prefer to watch the dross we now play. I could understand this if our results were as good as Arry's, but there not !!

[dimexi]

I very rarely agree with Baldbloke but on this issue think he is bang on. (Even if he keeps saying it  )

A little request though - Baldbloke could you quote properly, I know it is a little time consuming but it makes it far easier to follow.

Cheers

[spursjoolz]

Voice.

You are spot on and I share your opinions.

Unfortunately there are some people here who make it up up as they go along!

Clueless!

[dimexi]

Voice.

You are spot on and I share your opinions.

Unfortunately there are some people here who make it up up as they go along!

Clueless!

Actually I think we all make it up as we go along. Just some are more wild and extreme with their views.

[baldbloke]

I very rarely agree with Baldbloke but on this issue think he is bang on. (Even if he keeps saying it  )

A little request though - Baldbloke could you quote properly, I know it is a little time consuming but it makes it far easier to follow.

Cheers

I shall need some instruction on how to do this, cheers !!

[ugs]

Voice.

You are spot on and I share your opinions.

Unfortunately there are some people here who make it up up as they go along!

Clueless!

Indeed it seems yourself and voice are clueless
 
Baldbloke, Dimexi spot on !!!!
 
 

[spursjoolz]

As I am writing this I find myself in a rather difficult position. I have just witnessed another Spurs victory, taking us back into the top 4 on the same points as Chelsea and AVB is on the way to receiving my full support. Winning against Stoke will mean he has achieved 15 points from the games up until Christmas. If we lose or draw I will hold off judgement for a while longer.

It would seem all is well and you just cannot argue with the facts and figures. Even Baldbloke will have to eat his hat if we maintain our current win %!

So why the conflict of interest?

We used to play great football at times but it won us nothing. Maybe we need to get gritty to win a bit more and then the good play will hopefully follow.

I rest my case

[pieboy]

Damn are we still harping on about Harry?

Don't get me wrong, was gutted when harry got the sack. But that was 6 months or so ago,
time to move on people.