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Re: Spurs; thank god for other failures, and then there is Pochettino.
« Reply #15 on: October 04, 2014, 09:42:49 AM »
An interesting article above but I don't think we should be judging Pochettino at the moment. He has just arrived so I expect him to take some time to settle in. He also has to build his team and when I say his team I mean the players he brings in, not those that he inherited.

As for one or two strikers up front or whether we have the right strikers, again I shall wait and see. We have only played a handful of games so  it is too early to judge. That is my opinion.

Time to settle down? Would December 31st be long enough? We should see a difference by then and start the new year on the front foot. The Ars*nal draw was unexpected and we need 3 points on both home games this week.  If, as you say, we have the strikers, the it shoudn't be a problem. As long as Pochettino knows what is is doing, we could also finish the year on a high, but I am not so sure!

It took Alex Ferguson 5 years to settle down and look what he achieved. So I doubt the 31st will be long enough.

           Voice, I am not being argumentative, but why must you keep making the same statement, I seem to remember you saying the same thing just after AVB was installed. ??? ???
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Re: Spurs; thank god for other failures, and then there is Pochettino.
« Reply #16 on: October 04, 2014, 10:23:31 AM »
An interesting article above but I don't think we should be judging Pochettino at the moment. He has just arrived so I expect him to take some time to settle in. He also has to build his team and when I say his team I mean the players he brings in, not those that he inherited.

As for one or two strikers up front or whether we have the right strikers, again I shall wait and see. We have only played a handful of games so  it is too early to judge. That is my opinion.

Time to settle down? Would December 31st be long enough? We should see a difference by then and start the new year on the front foot. The Ars*nal draw was unexpected and we need 3 points on both home games this week.  If, as you say, we have the strikers, the it shoudn't be a problem. As long as Pochettino knows what is is doing, we could also finish the year on a high, but I am not so sure!

It took Alex Ferguson 5 years to settle down and look what he achieved. So I doubt the 31st will be long enough.

           Voice, I am not being argumentative, but why must you keep making the same statement, I seem to remember you saying the same thing just after AVB was installed. ??? ???

I must agree if we are talking about past ways. Managers’ like Ferguson were given time, nowadays, even Ferguson would be sacked if he did not get the team right within a season. The current manager of United needs to sort something out pretty quickly before he is dust. I did say in an earlier post that we do need to give our manager time. And yes I do see the contradiction in my statement.   Nevertheless, what I do say in favour of Pochettino is that Levy has had 9 or so managers’ since he has ruled the roost, therefore, even he must sit back and take note. At least, under the Glaziers, they have had only three managers since taking over. So a few more sackings will not hurt their reputation. Unlike Levy’s.

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Re: Spurs; thank god for other failures, and then there is Pochettino.
« Reply #17 on: October 04, 2014, 02:38:13 PM »
Many of you keep mentioning the time word! but this is not modern day football!, we gave Harry time and he DID deliver!, No trophys but a champions league place and a team that played attractive free flowing football!, sure we lost a few and our defence was always suspect so that was the real main area to tweak but over all we had a real top 4 challenging team!, a real good feel factor and anticipation that we could just do something special soon!, but that was not good enough for Levy or some of the fans who wanted even better!!!, well the phrase " be carefull what you wish for" springs to mind because we are galaxys away from that now! we have ripped apart a very good team thrown in some promising stars and expected them to become world beaters.... stupid!, Tim Sherwood after Thursday game said something that was spot on!.." you need a good blend of yourth and experience" so the younger players can learn and fine tune their game, we had that with Harry but now we have no real leader, no fight, no speed, or conistent quality ball controll, no closing down and the whole team itself looks to waiting for someone else to flick a switch and take charge!, our buys have not even been average at best so now we are just left to fall away. Our youngsters are looking around for help and their is just no Real experience left!, How are so many new and young players going to form a bond when players and managers are in and out like yoyos!... Pochettino is no different from what we have tried (AVB), Levy says he will give hi time LMFAO!, do you really believe that if in 5 or 6 more games our football on the pitch is anything like what it is now!.. I DONT THINK SO!, there has to be some progression, some improvement in quality, team ethics, team spirit and ofcourse RESULTS!, which in this modern(chairmens) day football COUNTS FOR EVERYTHING!!!!.
I blame Levy! he wanted young managers AVB and now MP but all he has done is the same as the managers themselves have done swap old for new! but in doing so has failed to realise that AVB/MP do not have the experience when they DONT ALREADY HAVE A GREAT TEAM!,  AVB thought it would be rosy spending 100m+ on some good prospects and a few gambles, and it looks no different with MP as his signings are some what bizzar!, they are no world beaters, they are not even well known except Ben Davis or Vorm but they dont even play in the first team!, Eric Dier is the only player I think looks anywhere near a good signing! but where are the Scot Parkers, RVT, Gerrards and Lampards?, we get Stamboli, Chelsea get Fabregas!, we get Federico Fazio, Chelsea get Costa!, I could go on and on the oucome is always the same... we buy everyone elses cast offs and that is also the reason we are now in a complete mess.
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« Reply #18 on: October 06, 2014, 04:21:20 PM »
An interesting article above but I don't think we should be judging Pochettino at the moment. He has just arrived so I expect him to take some time to settle in. He also has to build his team and when I say his team I mean the players he brings in, not those that he inherited.

As for one or two strikers up front or whether we have the right strikers, again I shall wait and see. We have only played a handful of games so  it is too early to judge. That is my opinion.

Time to settle down? Would December 31st be long enough? We should see a difference by then and start the new year on the front foot. The Ars*nal draw was unexpected and we need 3 points on both home games this week.  If, as you say, we have the strikers, the it shoudn't be a problem. As long as Pochettino knows what is is doing, we could also finish the year on a high, but I am not so sure!

It took Alex Ferguson 5 years to settle down and look what he achieved. So I doubt the 31st will be long enough.

           Voice, I am not being argumentative, but why must you keep making the same statement, I seem to remember you saying the same thing just after AVB was installed. ??? ???

Simples! I write in many different places concerning Spurs, so I can’t always remember where I said what or why. I also noticed other members have also repeated themselves in other posts. Intolerable. However, I understand your concerns are not about other members, but me personally. I also accept that you are not trying to be “argumentative” so I have taken your comments in good faith. What to do about it then? Testicles, pliers etc, comes to mind, however, that would need a more hands on approach. Leave it with me and I try to come up with a solution. Not just for me, but others on here, who should dare to step on the minefield of such repetitiveness. I know you will keep an eye on me, if I should dare to slip up again, and I shall keep an eye on others who should repeat themselves (including your good-self). Between us, we should remove those miscreants who attempt at repetitiveness (sorry, monotony).
Sorry I didn’t answer you sooner, I’ve been too busy in other places repeating myself.
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« Reply #19 on: October 06, 2014, 05:26:59 PM »
And this ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ is why I dont bother with this forum anymore!
THFC "COYS" and that is all I have to say about that!

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« Reply #20 on: October 06, 2014, 07:15:26 PM »
And this ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ is why I dont bother with this forum anymore!

Hi, I am new here and I hope you don’t mind me saying, but I read that as good humoured banter. I am sure the original poster of the comments meant his remarks in jest, and the other poster responded likewise. I am sure nobody is going to complain seriously if somebody repeats him or her self, and he did say he wasn’t trying to be argumentative. I joined to speak to like minded Spurs supporters and it seens all good intentioned. The comments made me smile. I would like to chat with all Spurs minded people so I do hope you continue posting. No forum can be that strict that you can’t banter with each other, surely. Or even repeat yourself?

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« Reply #21 on: October 06, 2014, 08:02:09 PM »
And this ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ is why I dont bother with this forum anymore!

Hi, I am new here and I hope you don’t mind me saying, but I read that as good humoured banter. I am sure the original poster of the comments meant his remarks in jest, and the other poster responded likewise. I am sure nobody is going to complain seriously if somebody repeats him or her self, and he did say he wasn’t trying to be argumentative. I joined to speak to like minded Spurs supporters and it seens all good intentioned. The comments made me smile. I would like to chat with all Spurs minded people so I do hope you continue posting. No forum can be that strict that you can’t banter with each other, surely. Or even repeat yourself?

Hi Spurs X, I also think it was just a fun response. They both were pulling each others legs. That is what I like about forums, it is for fun, not just Spurs talk.

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« Reply #22 on: October 06, 2014, 08:08:29 PM »
Hi Jane and Spursx,

Of course Paul Finch was joking. Nobody is expecting to remember what they had previously said, more so when one writes a lot on Spurs, at various places. If he wasn't joking he would be an idiot, and Mr Finch isn't that. He just likes a good banter and windup. If he was serious we would be all guilty, not just me. That is forums for you; everybody trying to pull each other's legs. Oh, I cried with laughter when I read what he said. I thought "silly sausage.... god bless the old buffer for bringing some humour to this thread and going off topic". I laughed so much I cried. :up: :2funny: :2funny: :2funny:
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« Reply #23 on: October 06, 2014, 08:12:21 PM »
Thank you for that Jane and voice, I do appreciate good humour and it did make me laugh. That is why I enjoyed this forum and joined. I thought it was alright. And thank you Mr Finch. Keep it up. I have been down a bit lately and I needed cheering up. Serious discussion is ok, but we are yids and not just want talk. More so the way we have been playing of late.


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« Reply #24 on: October 06, 2014, 08:15:36 PM »
Great forum. Thanks everybody for making me laugh as well. Apart from the game on Sunday I was starting to feel down with the way we were going. Glad I joined.

Jane x :dance:

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« Reply #25 on: October 06, 2014, 08:17:05 PM »
Great forum. Thanks everybody for making me laugh as well. Apart from the game on Sunday I was starting to feel down with the way we were going. Glad I joined.

Jane x :dance:

I will follow that Jane. I shall certainly tell some of my Spurs mates about this forum. 8)

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Re: Spurs; thank god for other failures, and then there is Pochettino.
« Reply #26 on: October 07, 2014, 07:54:38 AM »
An interesting article above but I don't think we should be judging Pochettino at the moment. He has just arrived so I expect him to take some time to settle in. He also has to build his team and when I say his team I mean the players he brings in, not those that he inherited.

As for one or two strikers up front or whether we have the right strikers, again I shall wait and see. We have only played a handful of games so  it is too early to judge. That is my opinion.

Time to settle down? Would December 31st be long enough? We should see a difference by then and start the new year on the front foot. The Ars*nal draw was unexpected and we need 3 points on both home games this week.  If, as you say, we have the strikers, the it shoudn't be a problem. As long as Pochettino knows what is is doing, we could also finish the year on a high, but I am not so sure!

It took Alex Ferguson 5 years to settle down and look what he achieved. So I doubt the 31st will be long enough.

It would be a grave error to compare SAF with MP (!) even at this early stage.  I don't think any of us is daft enough to believe that, should we be on the blink of relegation at the end of the season, Pochettino would still be in charge next season.

The time Fergie was given will never be repeated by any club. Just look at Moyes for a start, and don't think it won't happen to VanGal if they slip up again this year.

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Re: Spurs; thank god for other failures, and then there is Pochettino.
« Reply #27 on: October 07, 2014, 09:38:34 AM »
I think we are moving away from the topic itself guys & dolls, seriously do we really care what fergi, Venger, Gaal or whoever else does? hell no all I am bothered about is Tottenham Hotspur football club!, and how we are going or not so going at the moment!, sure we picked up a win a Southhampton Saturday and the movement for the goal was brilliant and nice to see but MP still has us sitting far to deep and we still do not hound the opposition in there own half!, if we were to address this a.s.a.p we could then start dictating games instead of playing this slow counter tactics, there are glimses of good quick breaks and Chadli is starting to look like a good make shift forward to support Ade, and by getting Erriksen in his prefered position higher up the pitch he can link our attacks and we see the best of him like on Sat, this can only be achieved by MP forcing his players to stay higher up the pitch, BUT I dont want the back four on the half way line like AVB as that leaves us way to vunrable to the ball in behind and we failed misserably like that last season.
I want to give MP all the chance in the world I really do but he must not take the quiet thoughtful approach he needs to impose hi authority right now and get the team motivated and not frightened to try his ideas!, if they are not prepared to do as he asks then ship them out.
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« Reply #28 on: October 07, 2014, 01:34:22 PM »
A bit of repetitiveness is okay, just try not to sound like a broken record, please.

Although talking of repetitiveness, I am starting to wonder if Spursx, Jane and Voice are all alter egos conversing with themselves. Are you all actually Voice or maybe Baldbloke has been here all along or heaven forbid Gareth Keown?

 ;)
Maybe next year...

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« Reply #29 on: October 07, 2014, 01:38:20 PM »
As for the actual issue of Alex F, it really isn't relevant in today's world. Especially considering the side that gave him 5 years to get it right are the same side that dumped Moyes asap. So it really cannot be brought up as a yardstick any more.

Pochettino should be given more time, at least 2 full seasons if you ask me, and if it looks like it is going wrong in that time, it should be Levy to leave before Pochettino does.
Maybe next year...