Scott Parker.... The answer to our clean sheet problem?

[Gareth Keown]

FYI I consider Gerrard and Lampard as even more overhyped by the British Media than even Nosey Parker..... but thats another thread to look forward to 

if Parker comes, it will prove to be a short-sighted knee-jerk response by Arry, in thinking that we need a 'big voice' in the dressing-room.... this may be so, but it needs to belong to someone with far more stutus and juice than Scot Parker: who is frankly, a journeyman midfielder with a bigmouth who scored 2 great goals in quick succession for Charlton... which created the sudden hype.... to get Chavski interested in buying him (then benching him for years on end, when they found out his true worth)...

Parker in...... Spurs in Europa for next 5yrs...... can you really see the likes of Modric, THudd, Palacios, Jenas, King, Gallas, BAE or any of the other players giving the 'geezer' any respect beyond the ordinary ??

[aspursfan]

30 is not that old for a midfielder. Gerrard is 30, Lampard even older - even though you might not like them, they still have it what is needed. Parker obviously is not Gerrard nor Lampard but considering him being pensioner is a bit short-sighted.

I'd also like to see Sandro succeed but so far he has been pretty inconsistent which is natural as he is only 20 years old. Not everyone are Gareth Bales or Wayne Rooneys.

You're right about the age, but we'd be BUYING him at 30. I think that is what the difference is. I think he's a good player, but it would have to be a reasonable price for him at that age. I'm not sure what WH would be looking for, but after just signing a new contract surely it wouldn't be cheap.

[taimedowne]

Surely with Sandro in the squad Parker would be a waste of money. From the limited views we have had of Sandro he looks to have the makings of a quality midfield general. He has power and a bit of pace and seems to enjoy the physical side of the game. He's a rough diamond and needs some work but with patience could very well blossom into just the player we are looking for. Getting Parker would slow Sandos development, and probably lead to him leaving to look for regular football.

[ugs]

Surely with Sandro in the squad Parker would be a waste of money. From the limited views we have had of Sandro he looks to have the makings of a quality midfield general. He has power and a bit of pace and seems to enjoy the physical side of the game. He's a rough diamond and needs some work but with patience could very well blossom into just the player we are looking for. Getting Parker would slow Sandos development, and probably lead to him leaving to look for regular football.

I totally agree with all your points about Sandro ...... but and there's always a but .... can we as a club afford to wait for him to develop. We need someone to sure up our midfield now to ensure that we qualify again for Champions League and also go as far as we can in this years competition. Maybe Parker for a couple of years could be that stop gap while Sandro finds his Premiership feet, the price is supposedly around £7 million which in this day and age is not alot of money !!
 
 

[OL'BOLTY]

Sounds like Keane off to West Ham, Parker moving the other way eh?

[ugs]

Any deal to strengthen the team, it's all about being in with a shout now that we have made it into the so called big four with the big boys !!!!
 
 

[Gareth Keown]

Keane will refuse to go to the porn-barons at Wet Spam.... hopefully they will be stupid enough to retain Sgt-Major Bigmouth as he's 'the heartbeat of the team' 

if Arry does manage to get this wannabe Ray Winston, then Spurs will indeed get what's coming.... a big price for Arry to pay just to get a 'geezer' in the squad he and the rat-pack can relate to and 'ave a larf with'.....

6th.

[risingstar]

Parker would be an awful signing, for reasons already mentioned. He's too old (not too old to play in the Prem obviously, but too old to spend big money on), he's inferior to Huddlestone, Jenas and Palacios, he's proven he can't play at a big side (Chelsea) and relies upon qualities such as 'rallying the troops' and 'putting his foot in', qualities that don't merit a spot in a Champions League team.


It's no surprise as to why Spurs have conceded often this season. It's not the personnel we have in defence / midfield so much (although we have misssed King badly to be fair), it's our style of play. We could easily tell Huddlestone and Modric to sit back more, tell Bale and Lennon to tuck in more, tell the full backs to sit back etc, but it's not the way we play, and certainly wouldn't suit the players we have. And as far as I'm concerned, that's a blessing. We don't have that 'big team' style of play that the likes of Utd and Ars*nal do, where we can pass the ball around the smaller defensive teams, fashioning heaps of chances, so we need to throw men forward and rely on the qualities each player has. It's worked incredibly well the last year and a half, and long may that continue.


I do get worried / frustrated by constantly going behind in games though, perhaps we need to start games a bit more cautiously, but where would be the fun in that? 

[Gareth Keown]

Parker would be an awful signing, for reasons already mentioned. He's too old (not too old to play in the Prem obviously, but too old to spend big money on), he's inferior to Huddlestone, Jenas and Palacios, he's proven he can't play at a big side (Chelsea) and relies upon qualities such as 'rallying the troops' and 'putting his foot in', qualities that don't merit a spot in a Champions League team.


It's no surprise as to why Spurs have conceded often this season. It's not the personnel we have in defence / midfield so much (although we have misssed King badly to be fair), it's our style of play. We could easily tell Huddlestone and Modric to sit back more, tell Bale and Lennon to tuck in more, tell the full backs to sit back etc, but it's not the way we play, and certainly wouldn't suit the players we have. And as far as I'm concerned, that's a blessing. We don't have that 'big team' style of play that the likes of Utd and Ars*nal do, where we can pass the ball around the smaller defensive teams, fashioning heaps of chances, so we need to throw men forward and rely on the qualities each player has. It's worked incredibly well the last year and a half, and long may that continue.


I do get worried / frustrated by constantly going behind in games though, perhaps we need to start games a bit more cautiously, but where would be the fun in that? 

RisingStar...... great post...... schtick around.....

and for those who dont agree.....

[taimedowne]

Surely with Sandro in the squad Parker would be a waste of money. From the limited views we have had of Sandro he looks to have the makings of a quality midfield general. He has power and a bit of pace and seems to enjoy the physical side of the game. He's a rough diamond and needs some work but with patience could very well blossom into just the player we are looking for. Getting Parker would slow Sandos development, and probably lead to him leaving to look for regular football.

I totally agree with all your points about Sandro ...... but and there's always a but .... can we as a club afford to wait for him to develop. We need someone to sure up our midfield now to ensure that we qualify again for Champions League and also go as far as we can in this years competition. Maybe Parker for a couple of years could be that stop gap while Sandro finds his Premiership feet, the price is supposedly around £7 million which in this day and age is not alot of money !!
 
 

This is the problem we face. You are right, if we are to qualify for The Champions League again we need ready made players to drop straight into the team. Parker fits the bill in that respect, but at the expense of developing a younger and potentially superior player in Sandro. Maybe the answer is to bring in Parker or somebody similar and put Sandro out on loan, preferably to a Premier League side, where he can gain  experience at the top level.

[Metalanimal]

If Parker came in it would be a quick fix short term solution, is it what we need.... yes as many have said we need to qualify for CL footi again next year anything else would be deemed a failure.  Would Parker benefit us??? yes to a degree for all reasons already stated.

I would like to see Sandro give more opportunities but we are at a critical time in our season and unless there are major injury problems we can risk player development in the first team at this stage.  A few sub appearances wouldnt do any harm though me thinks.

I would be against him going out on loan to lower divison teams remember a great prospect called Tarrabt!  If he goes on loan let him go to a struggling prem team for the season but he is a talent we want to keep.

Our Midfield is our strongest area just needs a little tweak here and there to be really solid in depth and Parker could be just the answer and 7 mill is reasonable

[millers-tach]

Someone seemed to sugest this is a done deal? Any basis for that other than chatroom gossip?(genuine question, not having a dig)
 
I dont see him leaving them to be honest, think he is happy there and likes being the big player for a small team. May lose a bit of his drive and confidence surrounded by our players. It worries me a bit that he vanished when in England squad and did nothing to get on the plane.
 
As a swop for Keane i would still take the chance though as he is a scorer.

[OL'BOLTY]

Parker inferior to Jenas and Palacios...


Sorry, just my opinion of course.

[Gareth Keown]

how many more England caps (at every level from u15s) has Parker got than Jenas again please ??

case rested.

[Gareth Keown]

1) we leak too many goals, mainly due to the CM not providing adequate cover for the back4.... its not the CMs fault, as it has less defensive players in it eg. Modric, THudd....

2) but we can't drop Modric, he has to play cos he is goood and he cost alot of dosh (20m).... but where to play him

3) Arry may well feel we need a more robust, hard-tackling/covering CM.... and also allow THudd to be a part of it...

4) VERY IMPORTANT.... Bale is gonna go, if not in January then in the summer.... which should free up the old LM slot for Modric again....

5) what we then need is a pacy, attacking outlet at RM, like we did for most of last season before Lennon got injured.... the system worked well then with Modric drifting inside from LM...

THAT'S WHY its imperative to get decent backup for Lennon, for when he's injured/rested.... enter Glen Johnson.... great attacking play with adequate defensive traits (for a wide midfielder).... Livpool wanna sell AND they want Kranjcar...BINGO!!...... NIKO + 5M  =  JOHNSON....

6) as cover/competition for Modric, we get in Pienaar on the cheap.... can even cover the RM, as well as even play 2nd striker..

in: Johnson and/or Pienaar, Parker, new striker, new CB

out: Kranjcar, Keane, Bentley (loan), Dos Santos....possibly Bale in January..