Spurs are a laughing stock - Comolli

[Metalanimal]

I would stick my neck and say in recent times 2 managers have been harshly sacked, Jol and AVB all others had taken as far as they could and had to be moved on.

[Jane]

I thought Harry was badly treated, even though I was annoyed that he took his eye of the ball.

[dimexi]

I think the names you mentioned were rightly sacked.

You have got to be kidding?

So you believe that every one of these deserved to go when they did. Seriously the board can do no wrong in your eyes can they?

I also see that AVB was not on the list, so maybe that is the one they got wrong, in your opinion.

I think the real benchmark here is whether the manager in the position at the time, does not look like achieving the same, if not better than the previous year. With a bit of common sense when it comes down to having more points but in a lower position, weird European rules, or the fact that all the teams above you have spent far more money in the transfer market (off-setting the blame off the manager and onto the finances/budget of the club)

Sherwood - maybe he shouldn't have been put there in the first place, but his sacking achieved what exactly? Nothing, we are actually worse off now than we were, not MPs fault.

AVB - I was fed up with the style of play and the lower quality players, but would he be doing worse or better than what we have right now? I actually think he would be doing better, can't believe I'm saying it, but it is the truth. I think with greater experience, I think he would be getting points where we are losing them now.

Harry - Putting aside all the baggage, that a few people like to keep bringing up. He is, was and always will be (if we stay like we are) the best manager we have had in my lifetime. Why oh why oh why? would you get rid of him and replace him with AVB? I am pretty sure he would get more from the current players we have, we would be playing a style that we all prefer and the results would be better. I still think the lack of quality would put us in about 5th or 6th at the moment, but anyone who doesn't think that needs their head seeing to. As a side note is it a coincidence that our best time came when there wasn't a director of football. Maybe it wasn't Harry's magic, but the lack of the dark cloud looming over head.

Jol - Even though once Jol had gone, we ended up with Harry, was it right for him to go? Probably not. Harry is better than Jol, but I hated that decision at the time. It was almost as bad as the way they sacked Harry. I am sure the side would have improved and done better given more time. As it turned out, it was the right decision, but this was more luck than judgement.

The fact of the matter is that each of these managers would probably not do worse than they already did. They may be  able to improve on each others records (AVB still has the highest win ratio, Harry still achieved more and played better football) but none of them can polish a turd.

There is only one recurring factor in these decisions and the state of the club on the field - Levy! First step to get out of this madness, get rid of the director of football and coach, and go back to having a manager who makes his own transfers.

Oh and as for what Comolli said  - put aside your blood ties and love of the club, it is time to swallow the blue pill. What he actually says is true. Look at our record of buying rubbish players, look at our none existent scouting network, look at how we have the best training facilities but not the quality in coaches, look at our poor injuries records and the lack of physios, look at the side out on the pitch. Laughing stock is putting it kindly.

[RiffHard]

I think the names you mentioned were rightly sacked.

Oh and as for what Comolli said  - put aside your blood ties and love of the club, it is time to swallow the blue pill. What he actually says is true. Look at our record of buying rubbish players, look at our none existent scouting network, look at how we have the best training facilities but not the quality in coaches, look at our poor injuries records and the lack of physios, look at the side out on the pitch. Laughing stock is putting it kindly.

Right you are. The huge amount of injuries we have every year is pretty close to ridiculous.

[Glenn R]

I think the names you mentioned were rightly sacked.

You have got to be kidding?

So you believe that every one of these deserved to go when they did. Seriously the board can do no wrong in your eyes can they?

Of course they can do wrong in my eyes, that is why we are in the mess we are in. Levy has picked some donkey's in his time (i.e. managers). The club has also has bought some donkey's (i.e. players). All wrong in my eyes. The last best manager we had was Burkinshaw and look how he was treated (actually look how Bill Nicholson was treated). Of course all this was before Levy and he seems to have followed that tradition. As for Redknapp, he shot himself in the foot (in case you asked).

[Glenn R]

I would stick my neck and say in recent times 2 managers have been harshly sacked, Jol and AVB all others had taken as far as they could and had to be moved on.

AVB should have been given longer as he did say that it would take some time to implement what he wanted.

[Spursx]

I think the names you mentioned were rightly sacked.

You have got to be kidding?

So you believe that every one of these deserved to go when they did. Seriously the board can do no wrong in your eyes can they?

Of course they can do wrong in my eyes, that is why we are in the mess we are in. Levy has picked some donkey's in his time (i.e. managers). The club has also has bought some donkey's (i.e. players). All wrong in my eyes. The last best manager we had was Burkinshaw and look how he was treated (actually look how Bill Nicholson was treated). Of course all this was before Levy and he seems to have followed that tradition. As for Redknapp, he shot himself in the foot (in case you asked).

I'll go along with that voice. I also don't think we've had a decent manager under Levy's control and as for Harry, he was only interested in himself. He was never at training. He only picked the team and was only at the training ground when the cameras were there. We must remember that he would have ditched Spurs if he got the England job. Anyway, if he was that good then why wasn’t there a queue for his services when he left Spurs? Eventually only a struggling club came in for him, which says it all.

[spursjoolz]

So you think that venables, Pleat, Jol, Rednapp & Sherwood were rightly sacked? I suppose you wold add AVB to that and quite likely Poch if results don't improve.

That would just about sum us up for the past few decades!

[yidmafioso]

You all make good points but it all comes back to one man and one man only ......Levy.He has overseen the last 10-12 years of overwhelming mediocrity laced with brief glimpses of promise .He`s given managers coutless millions to spend and bought players on the side without consultation .Then when its all gone wrong he`s sacked the manager and not taken one iota of the blame himself.If he had any love for spurs and any self respect he would have walked a long time ago .He s**t all over martin jol.He gave ramos jols job while jol was still in it then sacked him after just over a year.He then sacked harry 4 years later for being apparently disloyal ?? Not to mention he`s sold just about every decent player we`ve had and let franco whatshischops squander over £100 million on rubbish. :s**t:

[dimexi]

I think the names you mentioned were rightly sacked.

You have got to be kidding?

So you believe that every one of these deserved to go when they did. Seriously the board can do no wrong in your eyes can they?

Of course they can do wrong in my eyes, that is why we are in the mess we are in. Levy has picked some donkey's in his time (i.e. managers). The club has also has bought some donkey's (i.e. players). All wrong in my eyes. The last best manager we had was Burkinshaw and look how he was treated (actually look how Bill Nicholson was treated). Of course all this was before Levy and he seems to have followed that tradition. As for Redknapp, he shot himself in the foot (in case you asked).

I'll go along with that voice. I also don't think we've had a decent manager under Levy's control and as for Harry, he was only interested in himself. He was never at training. He only picked the team and was only at the training ground when the cameras were there. We must remember that he would have ditched Spurs if he got the England job. Anyway, if he was that good then why wasn’t there a queue for his services when he left Spurs? Eventually only a struggling club came in for him, which says it all.

Whether you think that or not, or even if some or all of it is true, it is irrelevant. Why? Because it was still THE BEST FOOTBALL WE HAVE PLAYED IN OVER 30 YEARS!!! Why is that so hard to grasp?

[dimexi]

You all make good points but it all comes back to one man and one man only ......Levy.He has overseen the last 10-12 years of overwhelming mediocrity laced with brief glimpses of promise .He`s given managers coutless millions to spend and bought players on the side without consultation .Then when its all gone wrong he`s sacked the manager and not taken one iota of the blame himself.If he had any love for spurs and any self respect he would have walked a long time ago .He s**t all over martin jol.He gave ramos jols job while jol was still in it then sacked him after just over a year.He then sacked harry 4 years later for being apparently disloyal ?? Not to mention he`s sold just about every decent player we`ve had and let franco whatshischops squander over £100 million on rubbish. :s**t:

But back to the main point as this is not a Harry debate (but hate hearing the same rubbish when the only proof we need to look at was what happened on the pitch)

You are correct, the one thing we can all agree on is, that Levy is the one that has consistently let the side down. Getting rid of him or at least changing hi role, would be the single best thing that could change this club around. Comolli  may be a prat, but what he said is bang on the money.

[RSS61]

You all make good points but it all comes back to one man and one man only ......Levy.He has overseen the last 10-12 years of overwhelming mediocrity laced with brief glimpses of promise .He`s given managers coutless millions to spend and bought players on the side without consultation .Then when its all gone wrong he`s sacked the manager and not taken one iota of the blame himself.If he had any love for spurs and any self respect he would have walked a long time ago .He s**t all over martin jol.He gave ramos jols job while jol was still in it then sacked him after just over a year.He then sacked harry 4 years later for being apparently disloyal ?? Not to mention he`s sold just about every decent player we`ve had and let franco whatshischops squander over £100 million on rubbish. :s**t:

But back to the main point as this is not a Harry debate (but hate hearing the same rubbish when the only proof we need to look at was what happened on the pitch)

You are correct, the one thing we can all agree on is, that Levy is the one that has consistently let the side down. Getting rid of him or at least changing hi role, would be the single best thing that could change this club around. Comolli  may be a prat, but what he said is bang on the money.

Correct

[Glenn R]

I think the names you mentioned were rightly sacked.

You have got to be kidding?

So you believe that every one of these deserved to go when they did. Seriously the board can do no wrong in your eyes can they?

Of course they can do wrong in my eyes, that is why we are in the mess we are in. Levy has picked some donkey's in his time (i.e. managers). The club has also has bought some donkey's (i.e. players). All wrong in my eyes. The last best manager we had was Burkinshaw and look how he was treated (actually look how Bill Nicholson was treated). Of course all this was before Levy and he seems to have followed that tradition. As for Redknapp, he shot himself in the foot (in case you asked).

I'll go along with that voice. I also don't think we've had a decent manager under Levy's control and as for Harry, he was only interested in himself. He was never at training. He only picked the team and was only at the training ground when the cameras were there. We must remember that he would have ditched Spurs if he got the England job. Anyway, if he was that good then why wasn’t there a queue for his services when he left Spurs? Eventually only a struggling club came in for him, which says it all.

Whether you think that or not, or even if some or all of it is true, it is irrelevant. Why? Because it was still THE BEST FOOTBALL WE HAVE PLAYED IN OVER 30 YEARS!!! Why is that so hard to grasp?

That is very true and you can’t argue with that (and it is simple to understand). However, I simply say; what did we win and how high did we end up? If you just want nice football then I will give you that, however, as a Spurs fan I don’t want us to be also runs (or just known as nice). I want us to win trophies, win the league, and be permanently in the top 4. There wasn’t one name that was mentioned that could help us achieve that goal. I suppose my fault, where Spurs are concerned, is that my heights have a higher bar than your nice football is set at, and I won’t apologise for that. But to be fair I remember the push and run and the famous teams that were created by Bill Nicholson or even Keith Burkinshaw (and all those teams won trophies, only Burkinshaw never won the league), where you only have your “30 years” of the best football YOU’VE ever seen. Of course I have seen better football in those 30 years, sadly, not by Spurs.

[Spursx]

I think the names you mentioned were rightly sacked.

You have got to be kidding?

So you believe that every one of these deserved to go when they did. Seriously the board can do no wrong in your eyes can they?

Of course they can do wrong in my eyes, that is why we are in the mess we are in. Levy has picked some donkey's in his time (i.e. managers). The club has also has bought some donkey's (i.e. players). All wrong in my eyes. The last best manager we had was Burkinshaw and look how he was treated (actually look how Bill Nicholson was treated). Of course all this was before Levy and he seems to have followed that tradition. As for Redknapp, he shot himself in the foot (in case you asked).

I'll go along with that voice. I also don't think we've had a decent manager under Levy's control and as for Harry, he was only interested in himself. He was never at training. He only picked the team and was only at the training ground when the cameras were there. We must remember that he would have ditched Spurs if he got the England job. Anyway, if he was that good then why wasn’t there a queue for his services when he left Spurs? Eventually only a struggling club came in for him, which says it all.

Whether you think that or not, or even if some or all of it is true, it is irrelevant. Why? Because it was still THE BEST FOOTBALL WE HAVE PLAYED IN OVER 30 YEARS!!! Why is that so hard to grasp?

That is very true and you can’t argue with that (and it is simple to understand). However, I simply say; what did we win and how high did we end up? If you just want nice football then I will give you that, however, as a Spurs fan I don’t want us to be also runs (or just known as nice). I want us to win trophies, win the league, and be permanently in the top 4. There wasn’t one name that was mentioned that could help us achieve that goal. I suppose my fault, where Spurs are concerned, is that my heights have a higher bar than your nice football is set at, and I won’t apologise for that. But to be fair I remember the push and run and the famous teams that were created by Bill Nicholson or even Keith Burkinshaw (and all those teams won trophies, only Burkinshaw never won the league), where you only have your “30 years” of the best football YOU’VE ever seen. Of course I have seen better football in those 30 years, sadly, not by Spurs.

Even though I agree with dimexi that under those managers we’ve seen some of the best football in the last 30 years, that agreement must be superseded by what voice had said. If we, as Spurs supporters, are happy with playing just attractive football then, yes, we should have stuck with those managers, but I believe that Spurs should be up there with the elite. The only reason we are not is because of managers like AVB, Harry and all those others that have been sacked. And all that must fall on the shoulders of Levy. He pointed them and he should bear responsibility. I don’t know whether Poch is the right man for the job, but we have at least got to give him the chance to get the players he wants. Then judge.

[Jane]

When I joined I said I was a Harry fan, and I still think he was one of the best, even though he did shoot himself in the foot. But I also must agree with what was recently said, that we should be a top four club challenging for the title. I enjoyed Harry’s football, but I believe he took us as far as he could. With a new stadium in Spurs vision we need somebody that can share a vision that a new stadium encapsulate, and it pains me to say, but that would not have been achieved by the likes of Harry and all the others that have been mentioned. We have to go back to Keith B to see a worthy team. I am not sure whether our Maurce is the one, I personally think he is too young. But saying that we cannot keep sacking managers. We are where we are, so we should, at the present, keep our fingers crossed and hope for the best. One man I would love to see managing our club is Klinnsman. But that is one for the future.

Jane x