Next Manager

[Paul Finch]

I have just posted this on the Spurs v Villa game and then saw this SUBJECT and copied it here, I apologise.

 As I have said on MANY  MANY  OCCASIONS be very careful what you wish for, because quite often "tis better the DEVIL you know than the one you wish for" having said that I am not surprised that TS has gone. Personally I think that LEVY set him up as his(LEVY'S) fall guy and the longer the season went, the more obvious it became to TS, and consequently he became more vocal in his opinions of certain players, rightly or wrongly, unfortunately, I think that we have now lost someone who, prior to being made coach, has nurtured the YOUTH TEAM and who now has, unfortunately, left the CLUB. 
   I will be interested to hear your comments.

Yes PF I think you are probably right. Levy was responsible for the 100 million spend up, and when he saw that AVB was doing no good with them, he maybe thought I'll give Sherwood a go, and if by some miracle we make top 4, happy days, otherwise I can get rid of him for peanuts.

The biggest problem now, as I see it, is this. Next season, Man City, Chelsea, Liverpool, Ars*nal and Man Utd are all going to strengthen, with a lot more money to spend than we will have, and paying double/treble the wages. Where will that leave us by this time next year ? In 6th place again at best, and probably with another manager sacked.

We missed our big chance to have a decent run in top 4 when Levy failed to strengthen following the sales of Pavluchenko, Modric, Bale, Defoe, and the loss of King & Woodgate.

All in all a complete shambles, with Levy to blame IMO.

        RSS, I totally agree, but I hope that he(LEVY) does not do his normal trick and panic sell or panic buy, yes he DID spend in the region of  100 MILL in last summers transfer window, and maybe some bad decisions were made , BUT, I think there were some really good players bought as well, and we are yet to see some of those players achieve their potential(Soldado,Lamela and Paulinho), to name three , and YES we do need to strengthen in some areas, and as quite a few of our fellow contributors have pointed out, in particular Voice, you cannot bring in 7 or 8 new players and expect them to GEL immediately, it does take time, they have to adjust to not only a new playing environment, but a different culture and language, I moved to Australia when I was in my mid-forties, and found it very difficult to adjust, and I didn't have the language problem, now I am not making excuses for them, but I think that that has to be taken into consideration. As has been well documented, I have very little time for MR.LEVY, but I just hope that he does not only strengthen our squad in the areas that need strengthening, but give the new players time. Hopefully he will. We will have to wait and see. Plus of course the appointment of the RIGHT coach to oversee it, and I might add , a coach who is allowed to DO THE JOB without FEAR.

[Glenn R]

It isn't really surprising that he was sacked. Only a top four spot might have saved his job. I do feel sorry for him though. It wasn't totally his fault. He was inexperienced and what this club needs is somebody with experience. Hopefully the next manager will get us into the European Champions league.

Actually I think Sherwood deserves none of the blame. Considering what he had to work with and the number of points he achieved, I don't think there is a manager out there that could have come in and done any better. To expect him to have taken over and achieve a CL spot is ludicrous and unrealistic. The only reason it isn't surprising is because Levy is so predictable with his poor decisions, his thoughtless actions and his lack of credibility or accountability.

I agree he shouldn't be blamed, however, what let him down was his inexperience. I think he was just used as a stop gap by Levy. He had no intentions of giving him the job permanently.  If Sherwood had managed to get into the top 4 then Levy would have been in an awkward position.

[taimedowne]

In my opinion Sherwood was always just there to do the job to the end of the season. Levy knew that a lot of decent Managers would be available after the World Cup. What he didn't know was that Man U would sack Moyes and target his first choice van Gaal. Now he is in the S**T as he is left looking at plan B and maybe plans C&D to. Tottenham Hotspur you couldn't make it up..

[Glenn R]

In my opinion Sherwood was always just there to do the job to the end of the season. Levy knew that a lot of decent Managers would be available after the World Cup. What he didn't know was that Man U would sack Moyes and target his first choice van Gaal. Now he is in the S**T as he is left looking at plan B and maybe plans C&D to. Tottenham Hotspur you couldn't make it up..

I think his first choice was just paper talk. Van Gaal is not the only so good manager out there. There are a lot of skilled manager, I just hope he picks the right one.

[Metalanimal]

In my opinion Sherwood was always just there to do the job to the end of the season. Levy knew that a lot of decent Managers would be available after the World Cup. What he didn't know was that Man U would sack Moyes and target his first choice van Gaal. Now he is in the S**T as he is left looking at plan B and maybe plans C&D to. Tottenham Hotspur you couldn't make it up..

TS was in a no win situation anything other the CL qualification and he was out the door, having not purchased players in Jan when Levy apparently offered funds set himself up as a fall guy big time, if he had purchased and still failed again Levy smells of roses having made the funds available etc.

I do feel for TS as I like his passion he is just lacking that vital few years management experience, he must learn to command the respect of the players as he lost the dressing room in a big way.

Who will come to WHL, TBH I have no idea, Cappello has signed on longer with Russia, LVG is Utd bound, Klopp I cant imagine him having the motivation to come to WHL.  I think we will end up with Laudrup, Moyes or the hap from Southampton and TBH the only one I would welcome is Laudrup.

[dimexi]

Mauricio Pochettino      1/2         
Frank de Boer      3      
Roberto Mancini      8   
Rafa Benitez      8         
David Moyes      16         
Thomas Tuchel      33         
Antonio Conti      40      
Carlo Ancelotti      28         
Gus Poyet      33         
Jurgen Klinsmann      40      

These are the odds offered for the next spurs manager. The bookies rarely get it completely wrong, so I think you can rule out any from Moyes and below. Laudrup was the same as Van Gaal at 50-1.

So we are looking at either Pochettino, de Boer, Mancini and Benitiz. Two of these I would welcome, one of these I am a little unsure about, but may do well and the other  I strongly doubt will have the impact we desperately need. My pessimistic side says we will probably end up with Pochettino and will then be looking for a new manager next summer. I hope i am wrong.

[Metalanimal]

Mauricio Pochettino      1/2         
Frank de Boer      3      
Roberto Mancini      8   
Rafa Benitez      8         
David Moyes      16         
Thomas Tuchel      33         
Antonio Conti      40      
Carlo Ancelotti      28         
Gus Poyet      33         
Jurgen Klinsmann      40      

These are the odds offered for the next spurs manager. The bookies rarely get it completely wrong, so I think you can rule out any from Moyes and below. Laudrup was the same as Van Gaal at 50-1.

So we are looking at either Pochettino, de Boer, Mancini and Benitiz. Two of these I would welcome, one of these I am a little unsure about, but may do well and the other  I strongly doubt will have the impact we desperately need. My pessimistic side says we will probably end up with Pochettino and will then be looking for a new manager next summer. I hope i am wrong.

Your are right Dimexi Bookies are rarely far off, out of the top 4 listed there I would welcome and great hope if we land De Boer or Benitez with Benitez just edging it for me due to his EPL proven experience.  I think you are post on ref Pochettino but if we land him I hope we are wrong in our thoughts!

[RSS61]

Mauricio Pochettino      1/2         
Frank de Boer      3      
Roberto Mancini      8   
Rafa Benitez      8         
David Moyes      16         
Thomas Tuchel      33         
Antonio Conti      40      
Carlo Ancelotti      28         
Gus Poyet      33         
Jurgen Klinsmann      40      

These are the odds offered for the next spurs manager. The bookies rarely get it completely wrong, so I think you can rule out any from Moyes and below. Laudrup was the same as Van Gaal at 50-1.

So we are looking at either Pochettino, de Boer, Mancini and Benitiz. Two of these I would welcome, one of these I am a little unsure about, but may do well and the other  I strongly doubt will have the impact we desperately need. My pessimistic side says we will probably end up with Pochettino and will then be looking for a new manager next summer. I hope i am wrong.

Your are right Dimexi Bookies are rarely far off, out of the top 4 listed there I would welcome and great hope if we land De Boer or Benitez with Benitez just edging it for me due to his EPL proven experience.  I think you are post on ref Pochettino but if we land him I hope we are wrong in our thoughts!

They are probably making Pochettino the favorite because he would be the cheapest option, and they know how Levy's mind works.
TBH after the way AVB and Sherwood were treated, will anyone want the job ?

[spursjoolz]

Personally, I would take De Boer & Mancini out of this equasion. De Boer not right and Mancini not tough enough. So the battle is between Pochettino & Benitez.

God forbid that Moyes is even on the list! Klinsmann?   Dear oh dear!

[RSS61]

Personally, I would take De Boer & Mancini out of this equasion. De Boer not right and Mancini not tough enough. So the battle is between Pochettino & Benitez.

God forbid that Moyes is even on the list! Klinsmann?   Dear oh dear!

Joolz, why do you think that De Boer is not right ?

[Glenn R]

Personally, I would take De Boer & Mancini out of this equasion. De Boer not right and Mancini not tough enough. So the battle is between Pochettino & Benitez.

God forbid that Moyes is even on the list! Klinsmann?   Dear oh dear!

Joolz, why do you think that De Boer is not right ?

To be honest any person you pick could be the wrong one. Even the new manager of United. If he has a bad season then he will be out. What you need is luck, skill and the right players.

[Metalanimal]

Personally, I would take De Boer & Mancini out of this equasion. De Boer not right and Mancini not tough enough. So the battle is between Pochettino & Benitez.

God forbid that Moyes is even on the list! Klinsmann?   Dear oh dear!

Joolz, why do you think that De Boer is not right ?

To be honest any person you pick could be the wrong one. Even the new manager of United. If he has a bad season then he will be out. What you need is luck, skill and the right players.

We need a manager that will install belief in each player, someone who commands respect due to the person they are and what they have achieved in the past as player, manager or both.  A person that can motivate and lift the team and drive them forward with confidence with all these basic ingredients we then need some luck and players that are up to the job, which to be fair in most position we have already just a few additions and remoulding and we could be all buzzing again.

[dimexi]

Claudio Ranieri has been sacked from Monaco, with there being no compensation required, he could be the new Levy favourite.

Looking at his record he seems to come into a side and make a positive impact, they can challenge for a title, or even lead the challenge, but then go into a bad run of results and mess it up at the end. Sounds like the perfect Spurs manager to me! 

He does have the experience and capability to do well though and although may not be what we are ideally looking for, he could provide the transition back to where we were.

His odds have been reduced to 20-1 so still out of the picture at the moment.

My list would now go:

Benitez, De Boer, Ranieri, Mancini, Pochettino

[Paul Finch]

Quote by Dimexi:-
  My list would now go:

   "Benitez, De Boer, Ranieri, Mancini, Pochettino"

     Dimexi:  I hope to goodness that neither Mancini or Pochettino are appointed as our Coach, my reasons are as follows:
   
     Mancini may have won the league with Man City, but to be fair Mickey Mouse could have won the league with the amount of money and players that he had at his disposal, and he isolated so many players in his time there, Adebayour and Tevez spring to mind, do we need a dictator like him, surely not, we need a coach that will galvanise the players, I wasn't a fan of his when he was there, and I definitely won't change my opinion if he is appointed.

    Pochettino what has he achieved so far in his coaching career, I'll tell you, his only achievement to date was PL Mgr of the month last Oct, his winning percentage as a coach is even less impressive at Espanyol (Jan 2009-Nov2012) was 32.92%, at Southampton (Jan 2013-Present) is 38.33% an Average of 34.39%, to my mind he is worse than AVB,(and I made it very clear what I thought of him as soon as he was appointed), add to this the fact that he needs a translator to talk to the press.
       I think it would be bordering on the ridiculous if either of these two gentlemen were given the responsibility of coaching our Club, but that is just my opinion.
       With regards to the other three (imo), I would put them in this order, (1)  De Boer, (2) Ranieri and (3) Benitez. They are all proven coaches and, apart from De Boer, they have previous experience of the PL. Personally, I would like to see De Boer given the Job, that is of course, if he is still interested. 

[RSS61]

Quote by Dimexi:-
  My list would now go:

   "Benitez, De Boer, Ranieri, Mancini, Pochettino"

     Dimexi:  I hope to goodness that neither Mancini or Pochettino are appointed as our Coach, my reasons are as follows:
   
     Mancini may have won the league with Man City, but to be fair Mickey Mouse could have won the league with the amount of money and players that he had at his disposal, and he isolated so many players in his time there, Adebayour and Tevez spring to mind, do we need a dictator like him, surely not, we need a coach that will galvanise the players, I wasn't a fan of his when he was there, and I definitely won't change my opinion if he is appointed.

    Pochettino what has he achieved so far in his coaching career, I'll tell you, his only achievement to date was PL Mgr of the month last Oct, his winning percentage as a coach is even less impressive at Espanyol (Jan 2009-Nov2012) was 32.92%, at Southampton (Jan 2013-Present) is 38.33% an Average of 34.39%, to my mind he is worse than AVB,(and I made it very clear what I thought of him as soon as he was appointed), add to this the fact that he needs a translator to talk to the press.
       I think it would be bordering on the ridiculous if either of these two gentlemen were given the responsibility of coaching our Club, but that is just my opinion.
       With regards to the other three (imo), I would put them in this order, (1)  De Boer, (2) Ranieri and (3) Benitez. They are all proven coaches and, apart from De Boer, they have previous experience of the PL. Personally, I would like to see De Boer given the Job, that is of course, if he is still interested. 

Cant disagree with any of that