Tottenham v Newcastle

[Paul Finch]

I agree with you all that sitting 6th just 5 points adrift in mid November is not too bad, but we must find a way to score goals. FFS

 

      Joolz have you seen our PL fixtures for the rest of the 2013, they are pretty daunting!!
 

[Glenn R]

Totally agree V, I am fully behind AVB confident we will end in a CL spot this season, we haven't gelled yet and are no where near firing on all cylinders !

     Metal, We have just played our 11th PL game + all the other competition games. Just how many games do you think the Team need in order to Gel and fire on all cylinders (as you put it), maybe AVB needs to change the formation and his game plan, because it is clearly not working, 11 games, 9 goals isn't good enough, W 6 D2 L3(& 2 of those losses @ home) this maybe better than at this stage last season, but there is ONE difference, last season we had Gareth Bale, this season we don't, yes we have made some big signings on the back of his transfer, but at this stage they aren't working are they, is this because AVB isn't playing the right combination?  Also you have to consider the teams that are above us at the moment who have obviously made huge improvement, + there are only 2 teams who have scored less goals than us(and they are 19th and 20th)
       I am not calling for AVB to be sacked, but surely questions have to be asked.
       I agree we did not deserve to lose yesterday, the goal that we conceded was caused by Paulinho making a half-hearted tackle and losing the ball, which IMO was piss poor, my 9 yr old grand-daughter would have made a better effort, and, yes we did create some chances and Krul made some fantastic saves(that is what he is paid to do).Did Defoe touch the ball when he came on? I don't think he did. If AVB is going to start playing with 2 Strikers, IMO he must either play Ade or Lamela just behind Soldado. As I said it is only my opinion.
 
 
     

To be honest gelling together varies in teams. I’ve just been reading a book about the Premier League and it mentions two clubs (Ars*nal & United) who took a while to gel together and they went on to win trophies. We are progressing steadily. But at the end of the day it is the end result that counts. Bill Nicholson took a few seasons before winning the title. We've still got a good defence and not many get past us.

[Paul Finch]

Totally agree V, I am fully behind AVB confident we will end in a CL spot this season, we haven't gelled yet and are no where near firing on all cylinders !

     Metal, We have just played our 11th PL game + all the other competition games. Just how many games do you think the Team need in order to Gel and fire on all cylinders (as you put it), maybe AVB needs to change the formation and his game plan, because it is clearly not working, 11 games, 9 goals isn't good enough, W 6 D2 L3(& 2 of those losses @ home) this maybe better than at this stage last season, but there is ONE difference, last season we had Gareth Bale, this season we don't, yes we have made some big signings on the back of his transfer, but at this stage they aren't working are they, is this because AVB isn't playing the right combination?  Also you have to consider the teams that are above us at the moment who have obviously made huge improvement, + there are only 2 teams who have scored less goals than us(and they are 19th and 20th)
       I am not calling for AVB to be sacked, but surely questions have to be asked.
       I agree we did not deserve to lose yesterday, the goal that we conceded was caused by Paulinho making a half-hearted tackle and losing the ball, which IMO was piss poor, my 9 yr old grand-daughter would have made a better effort, and, yes we did create some chances and Krul made some fantastic saves(that is what he is paid to do).Did Defoe touch the ball when he came on? I don't think he did. If AVB is going to start playing with 2 Strikers, IMO he must either play Ade or Lamela just behind Soldado. As I said it is only my opinion.
 
 
     

To be honest gelling together varies in teams. We've still got a good defence and not many get past us.

      Voice is this fact or just your opinion[To be honest gelling together varies in teams] because to be quite honest I think after 11 PL games we should be starting to see some improvement, but I don't think that we are.
 
       As far as our defence is concerned, I still have my doubts, simply because we haven't yet played a side that plays with 2 quality Strikers (Van Persie and Rooney/ Suarez and Sturridge) to name just two combinations. Yes our defence is good, we haven't conceded that many goals, but we have also had a fair amount of luck as well, better sides might well have made us pay very dearly and we have also had to rely on Lloris quite heavily as well.
 
 
 
       

[Glenn R]

Totally agree V, I am fully behind AVB confident we will end in a CL spot this season, we haven't gelled yet and are no where near firing on all cylinders !

     Metal, We have just played our 11th PL game + all the other competition games. Just how many games do you think the Team need in order to Gel and fire on all cylinders (as you put it), maybe AVB needs to change the formation and his game plan, because it is clearly not working, 11 games, 9 goals isn't good enough, W 6 D2 L3(& 2 of those losses @ home) this maybe better than at this stage last season, but there is ONE difference, last season we had Gareth Bale, this season we don't, yes we have made some big signings on the back of his transfer, but at this stage they aren't working are they, is this because AVB isn't playing the right combination?  Also you have to consider the teams that are above us at the moment who have obviously made huge improvement, + there are only 2 teams who have scored less goals than us(and they are 19th and 20th)
       I am not calling for AVB to be sacked, but surely questions have to be asked.
       I agree we did not deserve to lose yesterday, the goal that we conceded was caused by Paulinho making a half-hearted tackle and losing the ball, which IMO was piss poor, my 9 yr old grand-daughter would have made a better effort, and, yes we did create some chances and Krul made some fantastic saves(that is what he is paid to do).Did Defoe touch the ball when he came on? I don't think he did. If AVB is going to start playing with 2 Strikers, IMO he must either play Ade or Lamela just behind Soldado. As I said it is only my opinion.
 
 
     

To be honest gelling together varies in teams. We've still got a good defence and not many get past us.

      Voice is this fact or just your opinion[To be honest gelling together varies in teams] because to be quite honest I think after 11 PL games we should be starting to see some improvement, but I don't think that we are.
 
       As far as our defence is concerned, I still have my doubts, simply because we haven't yet played a side that plays with 2 quality Strikers (Van Persie and Rooney/ Suarez and Sturridge) to name just two combinations. Yes our defence is good, we haven't conceded that many goals, but we have also had a fair amount of luck as well, better sides might well have made us pay very dearly and we have also had to rely on Lloris quite heavily as well.
 
 
 
     

It is my opinion based on years of observation and reporting Spurs matches.
I think we are seeing plenty of improvement. In the game against Newcastle we made 14 shoots at goal. If it wasn’t for the heroics of their goal keeper we would have scored a handful. We conceded a goal that Lloris would have saved.  We’ve only lost 3 games and in all the competitions. So what is the problem?
You hero was/ is Harry.  We are only 3 months in for god sake. I could understand the criticism if we were struggling and near the bottom and knocked out of all competitions. In Harry’s last year at Spurs we were 9 points adrift at this time. In AVB’s first season we were 11 points behind. In Harry’s last season we finished 4th. So what is the problem? Or am I missing something?

[Paul Finch]

Totally agree V, I am fully behind AVB confident we will end in a CL spot this season, we haven't gelled yet and are no where near firing on all cylinders !

     Metal, We have just played our 11th PL game + all the other competition games. Just how many games do you think the Team need in order to Gel and fire on all cylinders (as you put it), maybe AVB needs to change the formation and his game plan, because it is clearly not working, 11 games, 9 goals isn't good enough, W 6 D2 L3(& 2 of those losses @ home) this maybe better than at this stage last season, but there is ONE difference, last season we had Gareth Bale, this season we don't, yes we have made some big signings on the back of his transfer, but at this stage they aren't working are they, is this because AVB isn't playing the right combination?  Also you have to consider the teams that are above us at the moment who have obviously made huge improvement, + there are only 2 teams who have scored less goals than us(and they are 19th and 20th)
       I am not calling for AVB to be sacked, but surely questions have to be asked.
       I agree we did not deserve to lose yesterday, the goal that we conceded was caused by Paulinho making a half-hearted tackle and losing the ball, which IMO was piss poor, my 9 yr old grand-daughter would have made a better effort, and, yes we did create some chances and Krul made some fantastic saves(that is what he is paid to do).Did Defoe touch the ball when he came on? I don't think he did. If AVB is going to start playing with 2 Strikers, IMO he must either play Ade or Lamela just behind Soldado. As I said it is only my opinion.
 
 
     

To be honest gelling together varies in teams. We've still got a good defence and not many get past us.

      Voice is this fact or just your opinion[To be honest gelling together varies in teams] because to be quite honest I think after 11 PL games we should be starting to see some improvement, but I don't think that we are.
 
       As far as our defence is concerned, I still have my doubts, simply because we haven't yet played a side that plays with 2 quality Strikers (Van Persie and Rooney/ Suarez and Sturridge) to name just two combinations. Yes our defence is good, we haven't conceded that many goals, but we have also had a fair amount of luck as well, better sides might well have made us pay very dearly and we have also had to rely on Lloris quite heavily as well.
 
 
 
     

It is my opinion based on years of observation and reporting Spurs matches.
I think we are seeing plenty of improvement. In the game against Newcastle we made 14 shoots at goal. If it wasn’t for the heroics of their goal keeper we would have scored a handful. We conceded a goal that Lloris would have saved.  We’ve only lost 3 games and in all the competitions. So what is the problem?
You hero was/ is Harry.  We are only 3 months in for god sake. I could understand the criticism if we were struggling and near the bottom and knocked out of all competitions. In Harry’s last year at Spurs we were 9 points adrift at this time. In AVB’s first season we were 11 points behind. In Harry’s last season we finished 4th. So what is the problem? Or am I missing something?

        Voice for christsakes why on earth must you turn everything into a pro/anti Harry argument? for your information my hero is not and has never been Harry Redknapp!! You obviously did not read my post very thoroughly because you haven't bothered to comment on what I posted only on what you thought I said, had you have read it, you would have realized OH f**k IT I am not going to waste my valuable time, for someone who purports to know so much it is quite obvious that you know very little.
 
 

[Metalanimal]

Our lack of goals is a concern, my point regarding the team gelling is that the majority of our new signings are not getting a sniff at starting in the EPL, such as Lamela, Eriksen, Capoune and Cadhli (excuse spellings)  we have a wealth of talent and I feel AVB doesnt know what his strongest 11 is and is not prepared to take much in the way of a gamble to get our class players to gel in EPL games.

I would like to see us be bold play the talent we have possibly even stuff up a few games whilst the team bonds and gels and then start firing, but the season is ticking on quickly we are nearly a third of the way through.

AVB is doing a great job but with a slightly bolder approach we could be further up the table.  It is a working progress but for me that progress is slower than expected with the players and talent we have available.

[Glenn R]

Totally agree V, I am fully behind AVB confident we will end in a CL spot this season, we haven't gelled yet and are no where near firing on all cylinders !

     Metal, We have just played our 11th PL game + all the other competition games. Just how many games do you think the Team need in order to Gel and fire on all cylinders (as you put it), maybe AVB needs to change the formation and his game plan, because it is clearly not working, 11 games, 9 goals isn't good enough, W 6 D2 L3(& 2 of those losses @ home) this maybe better than at this stage last season, but there is ONE difference, last season we had Gareth Bale, this season we don't, yes we have made some big signings on the back of his transfer, but at this stage they aren't working are they, is this because AVB isn't playing the right combination?  Also you have to consider the teams that are above us at the moment who have obviously made huge improvement, + there are only 2 teams who have scored less goals than us(and they are 19th and 20th)
       I am not calling for AVB to be sacked, but surely questions have to be asked.
       I agree we did not deserve to lose yesterday, the goal that we conceded was caused by Paulinho making a half-hearted tackle and losing the ball, which IMO was piss poor, my 9 yr old grand-daughter would have made a better effort, and, yes we did create some chances and Krul made some fantastic saves(that is what he is paid to do).Did Defoe touch the ball when he came on? I don't think he did. If AVB is going to start playing with 2 Strikers, IMO he must either play Ade or Lamela just behind Soldado. As I said it is only my opinion.
 
 
     

To be honest gelling together varies in teams. We've still got a good defence and not many get past us.

      Voice is this fact or just your opinion[To be honest gelling together varies in teams] because to be quite honest I think after 11 PL games we should be starting to see some improvement, but I don't think that we are.
 
       As far as our defence is concerned, I still have my doubts, simply because we haven't yet played a side that plays with 2 quality Strikers (Van Persie and Rooney/ Suarez and Sturridge) to name just two combinations. Yes our defence is good, we haven't conceded that many goals, but we have also had a fair amount of luck as well, better sides might well have made us pay very dearly and we have also had to rely on Lloris quite heavily as well.
 
 
 
     

It is my opinion based on years of observation and reporting Spurs matches.
I think we are seeing plenty of improvement. In the game against Newcastle we made 14 shoots at goal. If it wasn’t for the heroics of their goal keeper we would have scored a handful. We conceded a goal that Lloris would have saved.  We’ve only lost 3 games and in all the competitions. So what is the problem?
You hero was/ is Harry.  We are only 3 months in for god sake. I could understand the criticism if we were struggling and near the bottom and knocked out of all competitions. In Harry’s last year at Spurs we were 9 points adrift at this time. In AVB’s first season we were 11 points behind. In Harry’s last season we finished 4th. So what is the problem? Or am I missing something?

        Voice for christsakes why on earth must you turn everything into a pro/anti Harry argument? for your information my hero is not and has never been Harry Redknapp!! You obviously did not read my post very thoroughly because you haven't bothered to comment on what I posted only on what you thought I said, had you have read it, you would have realized OH f**k IT I am not going to waste my valuable time, for someone who purports to know so much it is quite obvious that you know very little.
 
 

I appreciate what you said. I only wanted to make the point that we shouldn't be panicking at the moment. And to those that want Harry back (not necessarily you) should realise that we are in a better position then his previous seasons; at least going into November.

Your hero might not be Harry (I used it as a figure of speech) but you didn't want to see him go and you certainly didn't like AVB; granted your views on him are starting to change.

[Glenn R]

Our lack of goals is a concern, my point regarding the team gelling is that the majority of our new signings are not getting a sniff at starting in the EPL, such as Lamela, Eriksen, Capoune and Cadhli (excuse spellings)  we have a wealth of talent and I feel AVB doesnt know what his strongest 11 is and is not prepared to take much in the way of a gamble to get our class players to gel in EPL games.

I would like to see us be bold play the talent we have possibly even stuff up a few games whilst the team bonds and gels and then start firing, but the season is ticking on quickly we are nearly a third of the way through.

AVB is doing a great job but with a slightly bolder approach we could be further up the table.  It is a working progress but for me that progress is slower than expected with the players and talent we have available.

I do agree that Lamela and Eriksen should be played more. Maybe AVB is just easing them both in. Lamela has had problems adjusting to our league and also has a problem with the language.

[spursjoolz]

How long does it take to gel? If remember rightly, AVB was still trying to find his  best 11 at this time last year, but did eventually get it right.

As far as Lamela an Ericksen are concerned, they are still iffy IMO, but it's only a matter of time before they begin to start games regularly. Poor old Solado is suffering on his own up front and need help desperately!

[Paul Finch]

Totally agree V, I am fully behind AVB confident we will end in a CL spot this season, we haven't gelled yet and are no where near firing on all cylinders !

     Metal, We have just played our 11th PL game + all the other competition games. Just how many games do you think the Team need in order to Gel and fire on all cylinders (as you put it), maybe AVB needs to change the formation and his game plan, because it is clearly not working, 11 games, 9 goals isn't good enough, W 6 D2 L3(& 2 of those losses @ home) this maybe better than at this stage last season, but there is ONE difference, last season we had Gareth Bale, this season we don't, yes we have made some big signings on the back of his transfer, but at this stage they aren't working are they, is this because AVB isn't playing the right combination?  Also you have to consider the teams that are above us at the moment who have obviously made huge improvement, + there are only 2 teams who have scored less goals than us(and they are 19th and 20th)
       I am not calling for AVB to be sacked, but surely questions have to be asked.
       I agree we did not deserve to lose yesterday, the goal that we conceded was caused by Paulinho making a half-hearted tackle and losing the ball, which IMO was piss poor, my 9 yr old grand-daughter would have made a better effort, and, yes we did create some chances and Krul made some fantastic saves(that is what he is paid to do).Did Defoe touch the ball when he came on? I don't think he did. If AVB is going to start playing with 2 Strikers, IMO he must either play Ade or Lamela just behind Soldado. As I said it is only my opinion.
 
 
     

To be honest gelling together varies in teams. We've still got a good defence and not many get past us.

      Voice is this fact or just your opinion[To be honest gelling together varies in teams] because to be quite honest I think after 11 PL games we should be starting to see some improvement, but I don't think that we are.
 
       As far as our defence is concerned, I still have my doubts, simply because we haven't yet played a side that plays with 2 quality Strikers (Van Persie and Rooney/ Suarez and Sturridge) to name just two combinations. Yes our defence is good, we haven't conceded that many goals, but we have also had a fair amount of luck as well, better sides might well have made us pay very dearly and we have also had to rely on Lloris quite heavily as well.
 
 
 
     

It is my opinion based on years of observation and reporting Spurs matches.
I think we are seeing plenty of improvement. In the game against Newcastle we made 14 shoots at goal. If it wasn’t for the heroics of their goal keeper we would have scored a handful. We conceded a goal that Lloris would have saved.  We’ve only lost 3 games and in all the competitions. So what is the problem?
You hero was/ is Harry.  We are only 3 months in for god sake. I could understand the criticism if we were struggling and near the bottom and knocked out of all competitions. In Harry’s last year at Spurs we were 9 points adrift at this time. In AVB’s first season we were 11 points behind. In Harry’s last season we finished 4th. So what is the problem? Or am I missing something?

        Voice for christsakes why on earth must you turn everything into a pro/anti Harry argument? for your information my hero is not and has never been Harry Redknapp!! You obviously did not read my post very thoroughly because you haven't bothered to comment on what I posted only on what you thought I said, had you have read it, you would have realized OH f**k IT I am not going to waste my valuable time, for someone who purports to know so much it is quite obvious that you know very little.
 
 

I appreciate what you said. I only wanted to make the point that we shouldn't be panicking at the moment. And to those that want Harry back (not necessarily you) should realise that we are in a better position then his previous seasons; at least going into November.

Your hero might not be Harry (I used it as a figure of speech) but you didn't want to see him go and you certainly didn't like AVB; granted your views on him are starting to change.

     Cannot be f**ked to comment
 

[RiffHard]

Okay lads, enough of this. Thread closed.