Hudd and Livermore of to Hull

[taimedowne]

It seems likely that Tom Huddlestone is off on a permanent move to Hull City, or Tigers please yourself . With Jake Livermore joining him for a season long loan. Never rated Livermore but sorry to see Hudd go before he could get his haircut by scoring another of his 25 yard piledrivers. Your thoughts Gentleman. Ooh and Ladies should there be any.

[Chelmsford_yid]

Just turned on Sky Sports News and the breaking news is Hull sign Huddlestone.

[RiffHard]

Nothing on official site yet... Anyway, with Parker also supposedly leaving, I feel we could end up with a thin CM/DM area again. Sandro is returning from a very serious injury after all. I hope I'm not wrong.

[Glenn R]

Nothing on official site yet... Anyway, with Parker also supposedly leaving, I feel we could end up with a thin CM/DM area again. Sandro is returning from a very serious injury after all. I hope I'm not wrong.

Don't forget that Spurs are still planning to purchase more players. Livermore is only on loan and can be recalled any time.

[taimedowne]

It does concern me that we seem to be selling most of our British players. Of our regular starters we only have Dawson, Defoe, Walker and Lennon who are British left, plus of course Naughton and a few others on the fringes. Do you think we even look at British players anymore ? It seems few clubs do these days. They say English players are to expensive but we just paid a club record for a Spaniard and before that a Brazilian so that arguement doesn't really hold water. Dont get me wrong I'd support Spurs if they fielded 11 Martians but I do wonder if we are losing our identity. Christ out of the British players I have mentioned only Defoe is a Londoner and we are supposed to be a London club   

[spursjoolz]

How many English players do Ars*nal or Man City have?

[zapiy]

Just because other teams don't have many British players should not mean we follow suit, having said that i want to support a winning team so on that basis i will give this new players a chance.

[RiffHard]

It does concern me that we seem to be selling most of our British players. Of our regular starters we only have Dawson, Defoe, Walker and Lennon who are British left, plus of course Naughton and a few others on the fringes. Do you think we even look at British players anymore ? It seems few clubs do these days. They say English players are to expensive but we just paid a club record for a Spaniard and before that a Brazilian so that arguement doesn't really hold water. Dont get me wrong I'd support Spurs if they fielded 11 Martians but I do wonder if we are losing our identity. Christ out of the British players I have mentioned only Defoe is a Londoner and we are supposed to be a London club   

I was thinking the same thing a few weeks ago. But, I think the problem is deeper than many people understand. The foreign influx has somewhat killed the English game and therefore there aren't enough good prospects coming through youth systems and the few who come are overpriced and often overhyped. Of course there are brilliant players like Bale and Wilshere, but we know how much they cost.

The reason why Villas-Boas is bringing in so many foreign players is that British players are mostly less technically skilled and technicality is something Villas-Boas likes.

[Paul Finch]

        Riff,
             Are you saying that the majority of English and/or British players are stupid? I do agree that some can't string more than 2 words together.
 
 

[RSS61]

It does concern me that we seem to be selling most of our British players. Of our regular starters we only have Dawson, Defoe, Walker and Lennon who are British left, plus of course Naughton and a few others on the fringes. Do you think we even look at British players anymore ? It seems few clubs do these days. They say English players are to expensive but we just paid a club record for a Spaniard and before that a Brazilian so that arguement doesn't really hold water. Dont get me wrong I'd support Spurs if they fielded 11 Martians but I do wonder if we are losing our identity. Christ out of the British players I have mentioned only Defoe is a Londoner and we are supposed to be a London club   

I was thinking the same thing a few weeks ago. But, I think the problem is deeper than many people understand. The foreign influx has somewhat killed the English game and therefore there aren't enough good prospects coming through youth systems and the few who come are overpriced and often overhyped. Of course there are brilliant players like Bale and Wilshere, but we know how much they cost.

The reason why Villas-Boas is bringing in so many foreign players is that British players are mostly less technically skilled and technicality is something Villas-Boas likes.

Having watched England struggle to overcome mighty Scotland 3-2 is it any wonder that in order to build a squad capable of challenging for something, it has to be filled with foreign players ?

Over the last few years the drive for instant success has lead to a whole lot of bright young English players not being given a chance to shine at the top level.

As for Hudd + Livermore + Defoe + Lennon,  well Hudd has had about 8 years I think to prove himself, along with Defoe and to a lesser degree Lennon, and IMO all have failed to perform consistently at the top level. Livermore tbh I just don't rate that highly.

[RiffHard]

        Riff,
             Are you saying that the majority of English and/or British players are stupid? I do agree that some can't string more than 2 words together.
 
 

Footballers and sportsmen are generally stupid. Sorry, but that's the way it is. Nevertheless, I don't think an IQ of 125 is needed to be a successful sportsman, it could help, of course. What I was trying to say that British football tactics are different from from tactics of Holland, Spain etc. and young players are more than often trained to fit into British system which has proven to be somewhat ancient for decades now. The problem is not the players, the problem is the whole system. Foreign players who are being brought in, have a different football upbringing and that is why many of them prove to be a hit in British leagues (EPL mainly), and to be fair, many fail as well.

[spursjoolz]

Hudd an Livermore will be hardly missed, I am sorry to say. They have been replaced with better players and there will be a couple more to join before the end of the window. 

I just wish that Hudd had scored a goal before parting company. He has raised a load of cash for Charity and could have had a decent hair cut.

[Glenn R]

        Riff,
             Are you saying that the majority of English and/or British players are stupid? I do agree that some can't string more than 2 words together.
 
 

Footballers and sportsmen are generally stupid. Sorry, but that's the way it is. Nevertheless, I don't think an IQ of 125 is needed to be a successful sportsman, it could help, of course. What I was trying to say that British football tactics are different from from tactics of Holland, Spain etc. and young players are more than often trained to fit into British system which has proven to be somewhat ancient for decades now. The problem is not the players, the problem is the whole system. Foreign players who are being brought in, have a different football upbringing and that is why many of them prove to be a hit in British leagues (EPL mainly), and to be fair, many fail as well.

I'll along with what you said here. What some lack in IQ they make up in ball control and skill. Whether British or foreign we want to win something and be continuously in the top  4.

[Paul Finch]

        Riff,
             Are you saying that the majority of English and/or British players are stupid? I do agree that some can't string more than 2 words together.
 
 

Footballers and sportsmen are generally stupid. Sorry, but that's the way it is. Nevertheless, I don't think an IQ of 125 is needed to be a successful sportsman, it could help, of course. What I was trying to say that British football tactics are different from from tactics of Holland, Spain etc. and young players are more than often trained to fit into British system which has proven to be somewhat ancient for decades now. The problem is not the players, the problem is the whole system. Foreign players who are being brought in, have a different football upbringing and that is why many of them prove to be a hit in British leagues (EPL mainly), and to be fair, many fail as well.

I'll along with what you said here. What some lack in IQ they make up in ball control and skill. Whether British or foreign we want to win something and be continuously in the top  4.

   
  Riff ,
         My comment was tongue in cheek, no offence intended. I do tend to agree with you, unfortunately whilst the standard of the EPL has improved, since the introduction of unlimited imported players, it has hindered the opportunities of our own home bred players and has caused the demise of the English/Scottish/Welsh and Irish National teams. I guess you can't have one without the other unfortunately.
 
 

[Glenn R]

        Riff,
             Are you saying that the majority of English and/or British players are stupid? I do agree that some can't string more than 2 words together.
 
 

Footballers and sportsmen are generally stupid. Sorry, but that's the way it is. Nevertheless, I don't think an IQ of 125 is needed to be a successful sportsman, it could help, of course. What I was trying to say that British football tactics are different from from tactics of Holland, Spain etc. and young players are more than often trained to fit into British system which has proven to be somewhat ancient for decades now. The problem is not the players, the problem is the whole system. Foreign players who are being brought in, have a different football upbringing and that is why many of them prove to be a hit in British leagues (EPL mainly), and to be fair, many fail as well.

I'll along with what you said here. What some lack in IQ they make up in ball control and skill. Whether British or foreign we want to win something and be continuously in the top  4.

   
  Riff ,
         My comment was tongue in cheek, no offence intended. I do tend to agree with you, unfortunately whilst the standard of the EPL has improved, since the introduction of unlimited imported players, it has hindered the opportunities of our own home bred players and has caused the demise of the English/Scottish/Welsh and Irish National teams. I guess you can't have one without the other unfortunately.
 
 

The Spurs manager recently said that he would love to sign decent English players but they are too expensive.