Starting 11 In View of Current Injuries

[Metalanimal]

I personally think we should not give up on the Europa League, but at the same time I really cannot see us progressing as Basel have two away goals and will be giving their all against us.

I agree. If we are any good then we can deal with more than one competition. Going on Sunday's match we can give FC Basel a run for their money and I have confidence we can go through.

Agreed as isnt our goal for this season to secure Champions League football again, however if we do make it or if we dont investment is needed in the squad to ensure we give a decent account of ourselves in the EPL and CL to secure CL again.

[spursjoolz]

I personally think we should not give up on the Europa League, but at the same time I really cannot see us progressing as Basel have two away goals and will be giving their all against us.

I disagree totally. With the scale of our injury worries, the sooner we get out of there the better!

[Glenn R]

I personally think we should not give up on the Europa League, but at the same time I really cannot see us progressing as Basel have two away goals and will be giving their all against us.

I disagree totally. With the scale of our injury worries, the sooner we get out of there the better!

Injuries worries? Younes Kaboul  training and coming back soon. Defoe, Lennon, Bale also should be back by the City game. We will soon be full strength (and of course the players we have got and playing are doing well).

[Paul Finch]

   I think that a few of you need to have a good look and take stock, if Bale, Lennon and Defoe come back too quickly who knows what further damage they will do. Our MAIN priority HAS to be finishing Top 4 PL, not trying to win Europa, three of the injured players(Bale,Lennon and Defoe) all got injured or aggravated injuries whilst playing Europa League, which could cost us Top 4 PL, yes it would be great to win something, but not at the expense of playing Champions League next season, because we do not have the depth in our squad, AVB cannot rotate our star players and they are having to play pretty much every game and as a consequence players are picking up injuries.Even a blind man must see that.
      Kaboul may be back in full training, but I'll tell you this right now he will not be MATCH FIT, and if he tries to do too much too soon he will end up with a soft tissue injury, and season over, he will be lucky to play 2 games in the run in.
       Manure,City and Chelski do have depth and they can rotate their players.


 

[Yiddite]

It will surprise me if Spurs win at Basel so think it will be the battle
for 4th spot after Thursday.
Probably best as it will reduce the number of our games and give
players a rest period between matches especially those returning from
injury.


Agree with you  Paul.

[RiffHard]

Paul, you're right, Kaboul will probably play a few minutes here and there, but I very much doubt he'll start a game in the coming future.

[Metalanimal]

   I think that a few of you need to have a good look and take stock, if Bale, Lennon and Defoe come back too quickly who knows what further damage they will do. Our MAIN priority HAS to be finishing Top 4 PL, not trying to win Europa, three of the injured players(Bale,Lennon and Defoe) all got injured or aggravated injuries whilst playing Europa League, which could cost us Top 4 PL, yes it would be great to win something, but not at the expense of playing Champions League next season, because we do not have the depth in our squad, AVB cannot rotate our star players and they are having to play pretty much every game and as a consequence players are picking up injuries.Even a blind man must see that.
      Kaboul may be back in full training, but I'll tell you this right now he will not be MATCH FIT, and if he tries to do too much too soon he will end up with a soft tissue injury, and season over, he will be lucky to play 2 games in the run in.
       Manure,City and Chelski do have depth and they can rotate their players.


 

I have to agree with you, whilst I feel we should not give up on the Europa league and I would love us to win it I would not want to win it or even continue in the competition at the expense of the CL spot in the EPL.  That spot is so so vital for our immediate future, it may be too late its hard to tell.   I am torn to saying lets give fringe players a run out Thursday ( i wouldnt like it at all but am looking at the bigger picture) and set our sights firmly on the EPL campaign, but I know this wont happen.

[Glenn R]

   I think that a few of you need to have a good look and take stock, if Bale, Lennon and Defoe come back too quickly who knows what further damage they will do. Our MAIN priority HAS to be finishing Top 4 PL, not trying to win Europa, three of the injured players(Bale,Lennon and Defoe) all got injured or aggravated injuries whilst playing Europa League, which could cost us Top 4 PL, yes it would be great to win something, but not at the expense of playing Champions League next season, because we do not have the depth in our squad, AVB cannot rotate our star players and they are having to play pretty much every game and as a consequence players are picking up injuries.Even a blind man must see that.
      Kaboul may be back in full training, but I'll tell you this right now he will not be MATCH FIT, and if he tries to do too much too soon he will end up with a soft tissue injury, and season over, he will be lucky to play 2 games in the run in.
       Manure,City and Chelski do have depth and they can rotate their players.


 

You say that a few should “take stock and have a good look” but the truth of the matter is we are on the outside looking in. We haven’t got a clue to what the injured players’ medical situation is. They’ve got highly professional doctors, therapists etc. who advice and they also know that rushing players back could cause more trouble in the long run. Saying all that I do accept mistakes have been made or decisions have been made for the wrong reasons, but we are not in the position to judge. We have to accept and hope that their specialists are making the right decisions.

Unless you are anybody know that wrong is being made then we must accept (and hope) that when players come back it is because they are fit.

By the way we rotate our players. You say that Chelsea and City rotate their players and have depth. We rotate our players and we are only 7 points behind City and 1 point behind Chelsea. So on your logic and with the manager and his team what we are doing is right and matches Chelsea and City. And we judge that my our position and point differences between 2nd and 3rd position and our own. Of course I accept that the final judgement will come at the end of the season.

[Yiddite]

Kaboul actually played for 60 mins in Monday's under 21 game against West Ham that ended 1-1.
So he is well on the way to a return if you ask me.
Maybe not against Man City but at Wigan.   

[Glenn R]

Kaboul actually played for 60 mins in Monday's under 21 game against West Ham that ended 1-1.
So he is well on the way to a return if you ask me.
Maybe not against Man City but at Wigan.   

Which is good for Spurs.

[Metalanimal]

Kaboul actually played for 60 mins in Monday's under 21 game against West Ham that ended 1-1.
So he is well on the way to a return if you ask me.
Maybe not against Man City but at Wigan.   

Thats awesome news!

[Paul Finch]

    I beg to differ but AVB has not been able to rotate our Star players, the only time Bale hasn't played is when he has either been injured or suspended, Lennon hasn't played because he has been injured, the same applies to Defoe and also Dembele, Verthonghen is probably the only one of our STAR players that has been rotated. We do not have the depth in our squad that City or Chelsea have, they can both field two quality teams that would be pushing for honours, we are lucky if we have 13 or 14 quality players.
    I agree that we are in a good position at the moment, but imagine the position we would be in if we had real quality depth in our squad, we would almost be assured of CL next season instead of hoping that other teams drop points.
    Yes you are right we are on the outside looking in, and no we are not fully aware of the injured players medical situation, but, I have been around long enough to know that the "Medicos" do make mistakes and bring back players too early. It is great news that Kaboul played sixty minutes, but playing 60 minutes doesn't mean that he is MATCH FIT or anywhere close to being so, he has been injured for 3/4 of the season with a serious knee injury, that is my point.


 
 

[baldbloke]

Okay, what is the best possible starting 11 we can put out considering our current injuries?

Looking first at the tricky game vs Everton then on paper the even more testing games vs Chelsea and Man City, as I feel even with wins in all these 3 matches we are going to be pushed all the way by the Goons for 4th place.

I would opt for:

Lloris

Walker Dawson JVT BAE

Parker Carroll

Holtby Dembele Sigs

Ade

Carroll is an attacking central mid fielder, and the Portuguese moron doesn't recognise that position. You would have to swap Dembele. The point is though, that AVB will not start Carroll. To be honest, it's going to backs up against the wall today. I think the scousres will win by a goal

How do you know he doesn't recognise it? He has his reasons which you are not privileged to. You base your assumption on your dislike of him and not facts.

Rubbish. AVB always plays a 4-2-3-1. The 2 central mid field players sit in front of the back line. This leaves a large gap between the attacking players and mid field. This is partly the reason the football this season has been so abysmal to watch. If he played one of the central mid field players in an attacking role, like Modric, then perhaps the football be a little palatable 

[Glenn R]

    I beg to differ but AVB has not been able to rotate our Star players, the only time Bale hasn't played is when he has either been injured or suspended, Lennon hasn't played because he has been injured, the same applies to Defoe and also Dembele, Verthonghen is probably the only one of our STAR players that has been rotated. We do not have the depth in our squad that City or Chelsea have, they can both field two quality teams that would be pushing for honours, we are lucky if we have 13 or 14 quality players.
    I agree that we are in a good position at the moment, but imagine the position we would be in if we had real quality depth in our squad, we would almost be assured of CL next season instead of hoping that other teams drop points.
    Yes you are right we are on the outside looking in, and no we are not fully aware of the injured players medical situation, but, I have been around long enough to know that the "Medicos" do make mistakes and bring back players too early. It is great news that Kaboul played sixty minutes, but playing 60 minutes doesn't mean that he is MATCH FIT or anywhere close to being so, he has been injured for 3/4 of the season with a serious knee injury, that is my point.


 
 

I also have been around long enough to know what is  what and of course you could be right, but I am sure you are with me in hoping that you are not right?

[Glenn R]

Okay, what is the best possible starting 11 we can put out considering our current injuries?

Looking first at the tricky game vs Everton then on paper the even more testing games vs Chelsea and Man City, as I feel even with wins in all these 3 matches we are going to be pushed all the way by the Goons for 4th place.

I would opt for:

Lloris

Walker Dawson JVT BAE

Parker Carroll

Holtby Dembele Sigs

Ade

Carroll is an attacking central mid fielder, and the Portuguese moron doesn't recognise that position. You would have to swap Dembele. The point is though, that AVB will not start Carroll. To be honest, it's going to backs up against the wall today. I think the scousres will win by a goal

How do you know he doesn't recognise it? He has his reasons which you are not privileged to. You base your assumption on your dislike of him and not facts.

Rubbish. AVB always plays a 4-2-3-1. The 2 central mid field players sit in front of the back line. This leaves a large gap between the attacking players and mid field. This is partly the reason the football this season has been so abysmal to watch. If he played one of the central mid field players in an attacking role, like Modric, then perhaps the football be a little palatable

The part of the season that we didn’t do well – or was hit and miss – was at the first half of the season. And the reason for this was a new manager, embedding new players (with players like Modric going) and trying to get the system right. Saying that we did have some very good results like beating Man Utd at the beginning of the season. Anyway, I am optimist while you are cynical, but only one of us will be right. As I have been saying today on various posts; I bet you hope that I am right?