Next Season

[taimedowne]

Your mate should contact the national press or the TV.  That's a disgrace and people should be shown how much these clubs value our support. Also it may do him some good as its amazing how a bit of adverse publicity can change the minds of  big organizations.

[Spurs218]

Talked about contacting the press but would they really care? I think he's just given up with Tottenham in general.

[Holtspur]

I think thats a good idea to cntact the press. Spurs will not like it as it is on the back on the last club/fan issue of "idiots. The press will love it! And he will probably gets his ST as said!

[Spurs218]

Not gonna happen, guy has washed his hands with Spurs, 9 years, 500 odd points and 400 + games 

[baldbloke]

There is a very strong danger of the club overestimating loyalty when the club is not showing it back to the fans. they just see nearly 25,000 on the waiting list (hence the need for a bigger stadium) and thinking to hell with individual instances. A very dangerous game especially when combined with Harry's disrespect of fans and dumbing down the squad..........people may just not be coming back.........this may all backfire on the club. what was it the great Keith Burkinshaw said when he left.........."there used to be a football club over there"

Just a few points. The so called waiting list is over 40,000 and not 25,000. However in reality that number is much much lower. As a bronze member you get put on the waiting list whether you want a season ticket or not. I would be surprised if we could actually sell more than about 5,000 season tickets if they became available. So yes we do need a bigger stadium, but only by about another 10,000 seats.

Secondly, the club treats it's supporters like s**t and always has done.

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There is a very strong danger of the club overestimating loyalty when the club is not showing it back to the fans. they just see nearly 25,000 on the waiting list (hence the need for a bigger stadium) and thinking to hell with individual instances. A very dangerous game especially when combined with Harry's disrespect of fans and dumbing down the squad..........people may just not be coming back.........this may all backfire on the club. what was it the great Keith Burkinshaw said when he left.........."there used to be a football club over there"

Just a few points. The so called waiting list is over 40,000 and not 25,000. However in reality that number is much much lower. As a bronze member you get put on the waiting list whether you want a season ticket or not. I would be surprised if we could actually sell more than about 5,000 season tickets if they became available. So yes we do need a bigger stadium, but only by about another 10,000 seats.

Secondly, the club treats it's supporters like s**t and always has done.

Crikey Baldbloke you are a little ray of sunshine, every post is doom doom doom gloom and more doom. Can't you find anything good to say about anything!!!
 
 

[yidmafioso]

I`m saying nothing until we know who`s staying and who`s going .If we lose any of the top boys levy can stick his membeship up his arse .

[baldbloke]

There is a very strong danger of the club overestimating loyalty when the club is not showing it back to the fans. they just see nearly 25,000 on the waiting list (hence the need for a bigger stadium) and thinking to hell with individual instances. A very dangerous game especially when combined with Harry's disrespect of fans and dumbing down the squad..........people may just not be coming back.........this may all backfire on the club. what was it the great Keith Burkinshaw said when he left.........."there used to be a football club over there"

Just a few points. The so called waiting list is over 40,000 and not 25,000. However in reality that number is much much lower. As a bronze member you get put on the waiting list whether you want a season ticket or not. I would be surprised if we could actually sell more than about 5,000 season tickets if they became available. So yes we do need a bigger stadium, but only by about another 10,000 seats.

Secondly, the club treats it's supporters like s**t and always has done.

Crikey Baldbloke you are a little ray of sunshine, every post is doom doom doom gloom and more doom. Can't you find anything good to say about anything!!!
 
 

Agree that I am a bit of a pessimist, however this comes from being a Spurs supporter for many many years. I have had personal dealings with the club on several occasions and always found them to very unhelpful.

We have the potential to be a massive club, however we aren't at present and that's why I KNOW we would not fill a 60,000 stadium. We need success first and a big stadium later. Every club in the world with a massive stadium has done it that way around. For some strange reason Levy and many of the Spurs supporters think it's possible to do it in reverse, and it simply isn't. The additional revenue from a larger stadium, even if we did fill it, would be pumped back in in order the club could actually pay for it. It would be many years before THFC had any money to pay for top players.

Our biggest problem is that we don't have a winning mentality and our Manager doesn't mind losing matches. Until the Chairman, the manager and the players start believing in the club we will never move on.

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I too have been a supporter for many years and in years gone by a season ticket holder and yes we have the potential to be a massive club. The difference between myself and you is I believe that we have started taking the right steps in the right direction to acheive this, we have the best squad that I can remember in 40 years with maybe the only exception of the team from around 86/87. We have a board that seems to understand what the club needs but keeps things in check whilst delivering support to the manager and we have a manager that understands the game and has got us playing some terrific football (at times) and needs to be given a bit more time to see if he can move us on again before we all start ripping him to pieces.
 
Now is not the time for argumnets and accusations now is the time for whole hearted backing and patience !!!!
 
 

[baldbloke]

I too have been a supporter for many years and in years gone by a season ticket holder and yes we have the potential to be a massive club. The difference between myself and you is I believe that we have started taking the right steps in the right direction to acheive this, we have the best squad that I can remember in 40 years with maybe the only exception of the team from around 86/87. We have a board that seems to understand what the club needs but keeps things in check whilst delivering support to the manager and we have a manager that understands the game and has got us playing some terrific football (at times) and needs to be given a bit more time to see if he can move us on again before we all start ripping him to pieces.
 
Now is not the time for argumnets and accusations now is the time for whole hearted backing and patience !!!!
 
 

Disagree about the board. Yes they can manage money brilliantly, however I don't believe they share our ambitions. With regards to Arry, he will be off when England come calling, so giving him time is irrelevant. I agree that we have the best squad we have had for years, however Arry hasn't got their heads right yet and that's why we aren't in the CL. I also believe we are shortly going to lose Modric and quite possibly Bale.

I admire your optimism, but unfortunately I don't share it.

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Personally I don't think England will come calling for 'Arry due to shall we say his accounting issues, remember what happened to Venables !!!
 
 

[baldbloke]

Personally I don't think England will come calling for 'Arry due to shall we say his accounting issues, remember what happened to Venables !!!
 
 

That's a fair point. However I'm pretty sure that at some point he will fall out with Levy and walk. I honestly don't see him as a long term manager and never have. I do however think he is a good manager, albeit not a brilliant one. I am surrounded at Spurs by people that positively hate him though, and would dearly love to see the back of him. If you read some of the posts on  the 1882 forum you will see that opinions are very mixed.

[Spurs218]

People who dislike Redknapp? 3/4 of the park lane dislike him, why do you think he doesn't have any chants.

[COYSacrossthepond]

That's a fair point. However I'm pretty sure that at some point he will fall out with Levy and walk. I honestly don't see him as a long term manager and never have. I do however think he is a good manager, albeit not a brilliant one. I am surrounded at Spurs by people that positively hate him though, and would dearly love to see the back of him. If you read some of the posts on  the 1882 forum you will see that opinions are very mixed.

This is one of the reasons I for one wouldn't be upset to see the back of Harry.

Look, I know I'm definitely one of the Harry-bashers, and I've made no bones about it. I do want him out. But it's not because I hate him or think he's a terrible manager. He's a good manager. He's just not OUR good manager. Harry won't be around at spurs for the next 5 or 10 years, even if we secure CL football every season. It's just not his style. Since he left WHU, he's not stayed anywhere longer than 3 years, and we're coming up on that number now. With the england job calling, I can't see him staying around another 2. And that worries me. Look at the top level clubs; Man Utd, Chelsea, for many years Liverpool, and that Woolwich side. With the exception of Chelsea, they all have had relatively stable manager situations; and the only time that Chelsea have won anything was with Mourinho at the helm.

My point is this; I really truly feel that this upcoming season is going to be the most important one in terms of securing CL football. If we can manage it, we can keep the best players of our squad together, and look to improve and move up into the Elite of european football.

But if we can't manage to secure CL football this upcoming season, Modric, Bale, VdV, all our best players, are going to start looking around for a team that can give them CL football. We have to prove that we can get there with the talent we have right now if we want to keep that talent.

And i just don't trust Harry to make that happen. I don't hate him, though I am very very frustrated with him at times.  Let's sum it up this way; If we secure CL football this upcoming season, Harry's managing won't be the reason. And as someone who wants the best for Spurs, I want a manager who can put us over the top like that.

I would love for Harry to do that, and for him to stick around the next 10 years. I just can't imagine that being the case.

[Holtspur]

I think Harry has his day in court later this month/early next.........will be interesting to see what happens regarding his relationship with the Board and the FA if the case goes against him. I sincerely hope that Levy has a Plan B to bring in a replacement......I know it wont be BMJ because of the way Levy treated him at the end, but he would be my first choice and I believe Park Lane would like it too!