I think expectations were set a little high, but darn it all, WHY NOT! we have a talented enough squad; we may not equal the Man U's and Barca's of the world, but we're certainly as talented as Man City and Liverpool, and younger to boot. While we certainly could get better and deeper, there's not a huge talent gap between us and the best teams in Europe; we need "a few players" to be challenging as a top Euro side. So, as much as it is a little unfair that we're "expecting" champs league football year in year out... I think that it's in some ways a good thing. We have a team that's good enough to make that happen; we should expect to challenge for it, and to be perfectly honest, we had it all to lose in January; then we went out and lost it. And, as you said in your original post JohnLaceys, that's down to Harry's bungling management.