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Bassong vs Gattuso really did happen

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Re: Bassong vs Gattuso really did happen
« Reply #1 on: February 17, 2011, 05:24:12 PM »
One can only imagine how Gattuso was pulled into Zlatan's sweaty armpit while desperately trying to give his best John McEnroe performance.

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Re: Bassong vs Gattuso really did happen
« Reply #2 on: February 17, 2011, 05:51:26 PM »
hope Bassong managed to keep his de-rigour surgically implanted woolly hat on.... not sure whether the guy has a forehead and skull actually off a football pitch...

Gattuso is a pathetic little man who has made a successful career outta acting the hardman on-field, thimping his fist in anger and barking quite alot..... the perfect role-model for our own Les...

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Re: Bassong vs Gattuso really did happen
« Reply #3 on: February 17, 2011, 06:21:43 PM »
Gattuso's agent alleged on an Italian radio station yesterday that his client had been called a "f**king Italian bastard" by Jordan. Claudio Pasqualin said: "For someone like Rino, who has a strong sense of belonging to Italy, I think this is the most cowardly and unspeakable of insults."

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Re: Bassong vs Gattuso really did happen
« Reply #4 on: February 17, 2011, 06:28:51 PM »
the Gattuso agent may have a point... I've seen Jordan get into strong verbals with a Liverpool player once last season and you could tell from the body language of those there that Jordan was the instigator.... the Liverpool guy just gave him a dirty look and walked away..

Jordan... or any others from the 'touchline team' should not have any verbal exchanges with opposing players, as it could be seen to be sledging or goading them.... its cynical, cowardly, unsporting and undermines the referee and his assistants...

FIFA should look at this from both sides.
« Last Edit: February 17, 2011, 06:41:57 PM by Gareth Keown »

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Re: Bassong vs Gattuso really did happen
« Reply #5 on: February 17, 2011, 06:55:10 PM »
Jordan... or any others from the 'touchline team' should not have any verbal exchanges with opposing players, as it could be seen to be sledging or goading them.... its cynical, cowardly, unsporting and undermines the referee and his assistants...

FIFA should look at this from both sides.

I see your reasoning now and it's a fair and valid point. You've just reaffirmed an earlier observation I made about the English sense of fair play, though (from my admittedly ignorant American point-of-view). There's something completely bonkers about this type of journalistic response to appropriate sporting behavior, when the players openly yell "f**k off" to the officials at virtually every call -- and that's just the tip of the iceberg is most cases. It is unfathomable to me, and it just does not happen in American sport without swift and severe consequence. As I've said before, yet another reason to love the Premier League. You just couldn't make this s**t up!
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Re: Bassong vs Gattuso really did happen
« Reply #6 on: February 17, 2011, 07:04:02 PM »
in sync with you Willsy ole bean... the level of degenerate behaviour that English football culture tolerates is totally beyond the pale.... its unbelievable what the refs let the players get away with... it doesnt happen in other European leagues - the culprits would be crucified..

youre probably having a mental pic of that hooligan Kieran Richardson from the Sunderland game, when we got a glorious close-up of his foul-mouth rant at the ref.... I fear Jordan is a more sneaky version of Richardson in his goading of Gattuso, in the style of the 'WormTongue' from the Lord of the Rings trilogy..

definately something you Yanks got us beat Im afraid... hands down..

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Re: Bassong vs Gattuso really did happen
« Reply #7 on: February 17, 2011, 07:17:52 PM »
its obvious gk is the supreme master when it comes to explaining to the masses how jordan goaded gattuso into his pathetic and cowardly behaviour seen as he;s the biggest wind up and s**t stirrer  merchant on this network only difference is nobody gives a s**t what his opinion is .

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Re: Bassong vs Gattuso really did happen
« Reply #8 on: February 17, 2011, 08:27:29 PM »
its obvious gk is the supreme master when it comes to explaining to the masses how jordan goaded gattuso into his pathetic and cowardly behaviour seen as he;s the biggest wind up and s**t stirrer  merchant on this network only difference is nobody gives a s**t what his opinion is .

which is no doubt why you.... yet again... have devoted a whole paragraph of fine prose with Me as the centrepiece... :up:

do you even begin to realise how stupid that makes you look ??

Bassong is nice.

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Re: Bassong vs Gattuso really did happen
« Reply #9 on: February 17, 2011, 11:52:51 PM »
Jordan... or any others from the 'touchline team' should not have any verbal exchanges with opposing players, as it could be seen to be sledging or goading them.... its cynical, cowardly, unsporting and undermines the referee and his assistants...

FIFA should look at this from both sides.

Correct me if im wrong, but did Gattuso not push Jordan first and go and try and attack him after the final whistle?
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Re: Bassong vs Gattuso really did happen
« Reply #10 on: February 18, 2011, 12:28:27 PM »
Jordan... or any others from the 'touchline team' should not have any verbal exchanges with opposing players, as it could be seen to be sledging or goading them.... its cynical, cowardly, unsporting and undermines the referee and his assistants...

FIFA should look at this from both sides.

Correct me if im wrong, but did Gattuso not push Jordan first and go and try and attack him after the final whistle?

you are correct Derry.... and thats exactly what the cynical, some would say cowardly and unsportsmanlike, Jordan tried to achieve when he in very strong likelihood goaded Gattuso with a few choice words....

why else would Gattuso single Jordan out..... not exactly someone significant to a player that has won several Italian titles, Champions League and World Cup medals.... notice the way Gattuso was courteous to Arry (the Spurs manager btw) but specifically singled out Jordan..... no doubt in your Lilywhite-tinted viewpoint that was pure coincidence..

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Re: Bassong vs Gattuso really did happen
« Reply #11 on: February 18, 2011, 02:01:53 PM »
Jordan... or any others from the 'touchline team' should not have any verbal exchanges with opposing players, as it could be seen to be sledging or goading them.... its cynical, cowardly, unsporting and undermines the referee and his assistants...

FIFA should look at this from both sides.

Correct me if im wrong, but did Gattuso not push Jordan first and go and try and attack him after the final whistle?

you are correct Derry.... and thats exactly what the cynical, some would say cowardly and unsportsmanlike, Jordan tried to achieve when he in very strong likelihood goaded Gattuso with a few choice words....

why else would Gattuso single Jordan out..... not exactly someone significant to a player that has won several Italian titles, Champions League and World Cup medals.... notice the way Gattuso was courteous to Arry (the Spurs manager btw) but specifically singled out Jordan..... no doubt in your Lilywhite-tinted viewpoint that was pure coincidence..

So you have absolute evidence that Jordan stood there and goaded Gattuso.
 
This was the Gattuso that was raising his hands and pushing Crouch and others, shouting and gesturing at the referee, thumping the ground and throwing his toys out of his pram the Gattuso that was basically being a complete d**k.
 
I don't doubt that words were exchanged but that dosen't excuse Gattuso going up to a man twice his age and head butting him. Also, and this is probably an alien argument to you as I guess you would run away and hide if the going got rough, as an assistant manager I would be disappointed if Jordan wasn't shouting out and pointing out to the officals Gattuso's disgusting behaviour on the pitch. In general I would expect Jordan to be there trying to protect his players and if calling Gattuso a prick draws the attention of the referee then fine.
 
And once again calling for our assistant manger to be investigated you really are priceless.
 
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Re: Bassong vs Gattuso really did happen
« Reply #12 on: February 18, 2011, 02:32:34 PM »
and when did I complain that Jordan complained to an official... I had issues with an assistant coach directly goading an opposition player .... you have conveniently moved the goalposts to your liking..

Ugsy.... trouble with simple minds such as yours is that you dont recognise a slippery slope when you see one..

allowing coaches and their gofers to engage in verbals with opposition players is that, at any point, it can cross acceptable lines and be a tool to
(a) goad players by insulting/threatening conversation

(b) inciting violent retribution and general breakdown of onfield conduct

(c) seen to be condoning over-agressive behaviour by adding to it verbally, and it being broadcst to millions of ppl incl. kids (who then see it as acceptable behaviour, coming as it is from their 'heroes')..

9d) undermining referees and their assistants in maintaining order; and/or putting undue pressure on refs to give further decisions their way..

NO..... NO.....NO.....and NO.....

Jordan should mind his onfield behaviour.... or risk next time getting his head kicked in (where's Diouf when you need him eh  :D)


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Re: Bassong vs Gattuso really did happen
« Reply #13 on: February 18, 2011, 03:09:52 PM »
and when did I complain that Jordan complained to an official... I had issues with an assistant coach directly goading an opposition player .... you have conveniently moved the goalposts to your liking..

Ugsy.... trouble with simple minds such as yours is that you dont recognise a slippery slope when you see one..

allowing coaches and their gofers to engage in verbals with opposition players is that, at any point, it can cross acceptable lines and be a tool to
(a) goad players by insulting/threatening conversation

(b) inciting violent retribution and general breakdown of onfield conduct

(c) seen to be condoning over-agressive behaviour by adding to it verbally, and it being broadcst to millions of ppl incl. kids (who then see it as acceptable behaviour, coming as it is from their 'heroes')..

9d) undermining referees and their assistants in maintaining order; and/or putting undue pressure on refs to give further decisions their way..

NO..... NO.....NO.....and NO.....

Jordan should mind his onfield behaviour.... or risk next time getting his head kicked in (where's Diouf when you need him eh  :D )

Like I said you'd run away !!!
 
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Re: Bassong vs Gattuso really did happen
« Reply #14 on: February 18, 2011, 03:30:19 PM »
Ugsy....the ole ' lost the argument so why not change the subject' ploy eh ...

now theres a surprise... 8)