Six nil defeat? Disgusting..... Let us hear it "AVB" out....!

[Glenn R]

When Spurs lost 6-0 to Manchester city (at City’s ground) the knives were out for AVB (and in some cases have been since AVB joined us from Chelsea). Instead of looking at the quality and good fortune that City had/ have it was far better to throw AVB on the bonfire and burn him or at least his effigy. Since that match we drew 2-2 against United (last year’s League winners) and beat three others. Today City beat Ars*nal by putting six past them (that club who is struggling at the bottom of the Premier league!!!!? Yes, that is the one). Which puts our 6-0 defeat into perspective. Spurs – if they win tomorrow – will be 2 points behind City (who have lost the same amount of matches as Spurs) and 5 points behind the league leaders (I forget, who are the league leaders again?).

Of course those that have criticised AVB could be proved right and I will then join the chorus of “AVB out,” but at the moment we are in a healthy position (as I keep saying) and, hopefully, Soldado will be inform (after his hat trick) and scoring those much needed goals we grave for.
Those who are eagled-eyed amongst you will have noticed – and probably respond with – that that team that was beaten by conceding six goals (no, not Spurs) managed to fire off 3 goals in retaliation. True; but I never said we’ve got it perfect yet. I just said that putting things into perspective, and where we are in the league (?), it isn’t all that bad. Let us revaluate the situation after Spurs travel to Old Trafford and take on last season’s league champions.

COYS

[Metalanimal]

I put a comment in the shout box yesterday as you have probably seen.  I think the key point is the Gooners still had 6 goals smashed past them as did we at the Etihad but I am sure they wont be calling for their managers head.

Whilst it is acknowledged that our method of play in the PL is not that of a top 4 CL challenging side we have been fortunate to date, changing the manager is not the answer.  There is something about AVB that still gives me confidence, perhaps the fact that we have carved out the results we have with practically a new team that has not yet gelled.... so what can we achieved once this happens...

I am simply taking 1 game at a time and will judge our performance, team selection and tactics employed after each game played, this is simply due to the "not quite got it right factor" as yet.

As for judging AVB, no timescale is set, a benchmark is, CL qualification but I feel there is a lot required to get us there so the point may come where I loose faith in him but there is no timescale or game set to determine this.

AVB and the team will continue to receive my full support 24/7/52, this also comes with the negative of the cuff comments when I feel let down and the arm chair manager input when I feel AVB isnt thinking clearly as my team does alot better on FIFA lol.

[Metalanimal]

Why do we look so out of our depth in the EPL!

[Metalanimal]

Well after that shameful defeat at the hands of the bin dipper (who Hull managed to smash 3-1) my support for AVB is slipping.

He needs to turn it around and fast as many supporters have already lost faith, only time will tell us if teh board have too!

[taimedowne]

I don't see AVB lasting the night to be honest. To lose 6-0 away is one thing  but to lose 0-5 at home is quite another. You could try and make excuses about 10 men and all that but we were never in the game before the sending off. Last season we played with pace and panache this season we are slow and unimaginative. The squad we have invested so heavily in has not gelled as yet. Soldado is wasting his time Lamela and Eriksen barely get a game. We have some top quality players but they are not being used to their full potential. I don't particularly want to see AVB sacked ( I cant think who would be available to replace him for one thing ) but the performances are not good enough. Wins against the bottom 2 in recent weeks only paper over the cracks. We have not been convincing all season and our goal scoring record is truly appalling for a team with pretentions of playing in The Champions League. It's not to late of course there is a long way to go but unless we improve dramatically we will be lucky to get Europa League next season.       

[ugs]

The topic name says it all ........ Well done Voice you've finally seen the light !!!!

[spursjoolz]

The topic name says it all ........ Well done Voice you've finally seen the light !!!!

I am sure you  are loving every minute!

[dimexi]

I am not sure we were in a healthy position before that shambles. I was going to respond before the Liverpool farcical saying how I didn't want Jol sacked, I didn't want Redknapp sacked and I didn't want AVB sacked either. The reason we were not in a healthy position (regardless of points) was the lack of attack, as you rightly pointed out. There just is not guile, creativity or potency in attack. Everything is too slow and our defensive failings are not due to the quality of the defenders but the tactics employed which leave us vulnerable against any side with a smidgen of quality.

Losing by that kind of margin with nothing in response not even a shot on target has sent alarm bells ringing. But still I will not ask for his sacking...yet! For me AVB has one more chance and he had better take it. He needs to change his approach and find a way to create a team rather than trying to make his team fit around his ideas. Ditch his formation and play 2 or 3 up front, allow the defensive to fall further back, crteating space in front of them which they can move into and approach the attacking players, thereby have more awareness of where the attacks are coming from as well as time to adjust position. This will need the defensive midfielder to break up many attacks before they arrive and give us a platform to attack with pace and from a higher position in the pitch when we do win it back.

Teams are simply not frightened of us, why would they be? You may not have liked Redknapp but we had no fear, played with freedom and expression and teams were extremely wary of us, not knowing what was going to happen next or where the attack was coming from. Today we are predictable and easy to break down.

Last chance AVB, last chance indeed!!!

[ugs]

The topic name says it all ........ Well done Voice you've finally seen the light !!!!

I am sure you  are loving every minute!

No Joolz I hate every second of this debarcle, my phone has not stopped this evening with people taking the piss out of my football team. I have supported Spurs for over 40 years and was a season ticket holder in years gone by(when I lived near enough), I have seen managers come and managers go and for the most part most of them have been mediocre but and here's the big thing we have always played football.
From day one I have not been comfortable with AVB's appointment due to his footballing phillosophy, which in my opinion is poor, his tactical ability and motivational skills have always been questionable and after today I would say things have been confirmed on how poor they are. We played against a so called rival team that beat us 5-0 at home and we didn't manage a shot on target they had 5 times more corners than us and completely out played us, even before Paulinho was sent off!!
Just take a look at his time at Chelski and what he did to them and how many players he alienated, we had the perfect man in place and Levy sacked him just because he wanted to be considered for the top managerial job in this country.
 
So no Joolz I'm not loving this I don't even want to say told you so, I just want my football team back playing something like decent entertaining football but alas I fear that we may be entering another period of mid table mediocrity due to one man not being able to accept 'Arry desire to considered for the England managers job !!!
 
 

[Metalanimal]

The topic name says it all ........ Well done Voice you've finally seen the light !!!!

Reading the post form Voice the title is not meant litteraly although after yesterdays game he may change his mind.

[spursjoolz]

The topic name says it all ........ Well done Voice you've finally seen the light !!!!

I am sure you  are loving every minute!

No Joolz I hate every second of this debarcle, my phone has not stopped this evening with people taking the piss out of my football team. I have supported Spurs for over 40 years and was a season ticket holder in years gone by(when I lived near enough), I have seen managers come and managers go and for the most part most of them have been mediocre but and here's the big thing we have always played football.
 
 

I agree with the past mediocre managers.

Please give us 2 names of managers that are available now and you believe would put would us back on track.

[ugs]

The topic name says it all ........ Well done Voice you've finally seen the light !!!!

I am sure you  are loving every minute!

No Joolz I hate every second of this debarcle, my phone has not stopped this evening with people taking the piss out of my football team. I have supported Spurs for over 40 years and was a season ticket holder in years gone by(when I lived near enough), I have seen managers come and managers go and for the most part most of them have been mediocre but and here's the big thing we have always played football.
 
 

I agree with the past mediocre managers.

Please give us 2 names of managers that are available now and you believe would put would us back on track.

Only one name for me Glenn Hoddle he was ahead of his time and his ideas and phillophy will now be perfect, just look at Liverpool, Everton and Swansea !!!!
 
 

[spursjoolz]

Only one name for me Glenn Hoddle he was ahead of his time and his ideas and phillophy will now be perfect, just look at Liverpool, Everton and Swansea !!!!
 
 

In the mediocre managers I had included Hoddle, who did b*ggar all at Chelsea or even at Wolves. In view of the fact that he has been available since 2006 and has not been linked with any EPL jobs,  please tell me (and all of us) what you would think could be different now in terms of improvements after being out of the game for so long.

[RiffHard]

Villas-Boas has been sacked, so it's time to close this thread. You can continue speculations about our new manager HERE.