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Tottenham Discussion => Spurs Chat => Topic started by: RiffHard on July 10, 2010, 08:59:50 PM
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So, after seeing our squad for tonight's friendly against Bournemouth I noticed that Woodgate was not on the list. King and other World Cup players obviously get some extra holiday time but we haven't heard anything about Woodgate for quite some time. The last info was that he had been to the States.
So what do you think, will we ever see him in Spurs shirt? He has been a great player to us but I have feeling that this groin injury has got the best of him. :-\
PS I really hope I'm wrong.
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Its only start of July, so still few weeks left before the real action begins. It would be nice to hear some news tho.
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Bit-Player at best. Woody has always been unlucky with injuries. He and King would have been England's Num.1
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I heard he's returning to fitness :D :D :D :D
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Well, some news about him http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1293984/Tottenham-boss-Harry-Redknapp-insists-make-break-Jonathan-Woodgate-battles-fitness.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1293984/Tottenham-boss-Harry-Redknapp-insists-make-break-Jonathan-Woodgate-battles-fitness.html)
I'd say his chances are unfortunately quite slim.
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I'd be surprised if the poor guy manages more than 5-10 games. Really thought after his first season where he strung a few games together that he might be over the worst but it just doesnt seem to be happening for the guy.
But his header v's Chelski will always be rememberd fondly.
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why do the most problematic players always play for us... :-\ ..... maybe not all of them but we have an unfair share...!
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Great great shame if Woody doesn't recover and has to call it quits. Looking increasingly unlikley he's going to though :'(
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I rate Woodgate so highley and as CountPuchi says if King and Woody had kept fit and injury free they would have been the Englands number 1 pair. His careers been so overshadowed with injuries even when he was back at Leeds, i think that he will be calling it a day soon but i hope he recovers and can feature for us this season.
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Harry has confirmed that Woodgate is close to giving up. http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11661_6327012,00.html (http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11661_6327012,00.html)
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never a fan of ex-jailbird pakistani-bashers myself.... still, he had a nice contract with us so got paid well on his 18 month vacation... I mean.. search for a miracle-cure...
nice tan Woody... nice tan.
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never a fan of ex-jailbird pakistani-bashers myself.... still, he had a nice contract with us so got paid well on his 18 month vacation... I mean.. search for a miracle-cure...
nice tan Woody... nice tan.
Kindly explain.......?????
I unfortunately went for the last option on this poll. I think hes finished which is a pity as he was top drawer. Hes been all around the world for a "cure" thats doesnt seem to be happening.
I wish him well and hope im wrong. What an asset a fully fit king and woodgate would be.
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Its not looking good, well the Mirror said that when we signed him we signed Sicknote II, really hat the fact that they're right!!!
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never a fan of ex-jailbird pakistani-bashers myself.... still, he had a nice contract with us so got paid well on his 18 month vacation... I mean.. search for a miracle-cure...
nice tan Woody... nice tan.
Kindly explain.......?????
I unfortunately went for the last option on this poll. I think hes finished which is a pity as he was top drawer. Hes been all around the world for a "cure" thats doesnt seem to be happening.
I wish him well and hope im wrong. What an asset a fully fit king and woodgate would be.
The controversy surrounding the savage gang assault on a young Asian student took a new twist last night when the victim accused the all-white jury which tried the case against two footballers of racially discriminating against him.
Sarfraz Najeib bitterly criticised the jury at Hull Crown Court, which acquitted Leeds United players Lee Bowyer and Jonathan Woodgate of committing grievous bodily harm, but found Woodgate guilty of affray.
The outcome of the 10-week, multi-million-pound trial has fuelled suspicions among Asian leaders that the justice system is biased against British Asians.
The Najeib family was disappointed to find a jury 'which wasn't going to treat the assault with the seriousness it deserved', family spokesman Suresh Grover, chairman of the National Civil Rights Movement, told The Observer.
The family wants more ethnically-mixed juries, especially when black or Asian people are the accused, or victims of a crime.
Sarfraz Najeib, his brother Shazhad and father Muhammad believe the jury's decision was 'absolutely perverse', said Grover. 'Anybody who looked at the evidence could not have reached the verdicts that they did. They are totally irrational and beyond belief, so other factors must have been taken into consideration.
'In today's Britain, Asian people feel they are going to be denied justice because of all-white juries.'
Sarfraz, whose leg, nose and cheekbone were broken during an assault by five men in January last year, disputed trial judge Mr Justice Henriques's ruling that racism had nothing to do with it.
Moments before a chase involving the student, his friends and a group of white men outside the Majestyk nightclub in Leeds, one of the whites said: 'Do you want some, Paki?'. 'I took that as meaning, "Do you want a fight",' Sarfraz tells tonight's BBC Panorama programme. 'I just thought they're racist scum, so I just ignored them because there were too many of them and I'm not a trouble-causer.'
His complaint about the jury is impossible to assess, because its deliberations were held entirely in private. But legal experts point to the apparent care with which they approached the case, taking five days to reach their verdict on detailed and often contradictory testimony.
The victim and his family denounced as too lenient Woodgate's sentence to 100 hours community service for taking part in the chase before the attack.
Both players are now free to resume their interrupted Leeds careers, although neither was due to play in their club's home game today against Leicester City.
Bowyer, who had been banned from playing for England since the incident, is now likely to make his international debut soon, but the Football Association is taking legal advice before deciding whether manager Sven-Göran Eriksson can pick Woodgate.
Former England captain Tony Adams said the judge should have made alcohol education a compulsory element of Woodgate's punishment. Ars*nal defender Adams, a recovering alcoholic who was jailed for drink-driving 10 years ago, told The Observer : 'They would not even have been involved in an incident if they hadn't been drunk. There should have been some element of education for these players as soon as they were charged.
'I'm not saying they are alcoholics but the use of alcohol to excess does change people's behaviour. I know all about that. A friend rang me after the verdicts [on Friday] and said he thought it was strange that I should have got three months in prison for drink-driving when someone gets community service for affray, but I told him that I went to jail because of where drinking took me.
'I firmly believe that in this country we should do what they do in America. Where there is a drink-related crime, some element of education or rehabilitation should come into the sentence.'
Adams has offered to help the Leeds duo by inviting them to the Sporting Chance Clinic, which he has set up to help sports people addicted to drink or drugs.
Gordon Taylor, chief executive of the Professional Footballers' Association, said players and clubs needed to do more to stop the tide of players involved in unsavoury, drink-related incidents. 'Players should exercise more common sense in their socialising, and football as a whole should do more because there are still problems, despite the education given to players about the dangers of alcohol and drugs.
'Players are akin to pop stars and film stars now. They are subject to temptation and to abuse. They can't move without people being there, and sometimes they become a target. Players need to be mindful that if they are in public and have been drinking too much and things get out of control, they are going to be highlighted.'
Taylor suggested more clubs could follow the example of Leeds last week. It sent guards with its players on a Christmas night out. However, the minders' presence did not stop an £11 million striker being arrested over an incident.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2001/dec/16/football.race (http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2001/dec/16/football.race)
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So, are AuburnSpur and Gareth Keown the same person? Seriously, Gareth Keown, I think you only joined this board to wind up people. But of course, to each his own. It really is stupid to bring up Woodgate's court case which was 10 years ago. I mean, everybody has made mistakes and I would say that it seems that he learned from it.
And when you come to think of it, you probably don't rate King either because he had a drunken scrap with some Asian bouncer as well and even spent a night in cell.
Woodgate has played very well for us, not to mention the fact that he scored our most important goal of 2008. So, if it really is the end of the road for him, I am happy that we had such a great player.
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you forgot to add the bit where he practically begged, bullied and cajoled Michael Duberry, a key-witness and fellow teammate then, to perjure himself by lying in a criminal-court to save his sorry hide - I take it he was fully sober by then mind...... Duberry was the one who was made the victim ultimately when the club and teammates turnED their back on HIM...
what a brave brave boy dearest Jonathan is..
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So, are AuburnSpur and Gareth Keown the same person? Seriously, Gareth Keown, I think you only joined this board to wind up people. But of course, to each his own. It really is stupid to bring up Woodgate's court case which was 10 years ago. I mean, everybody has made mistakes and I would say that it seems that he learned from it.
And when you come to think of it, you probably don't rate King either because he had a drunken scrap with some Asian bouncer as well and even spent a night in cell.
Woodgate has played very well for us, not to mention the fact that he scored our most important goal of 2008. So, if it really is the end of the road for him, I am happy that we had such a great player.
All I did was google his name along with "controversy" and paste the article that answered the question asked. I know absolutely nothing about it and didn't even read the article.
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Auburnspur you didn't answer the first question, let me remind you that your under oath Auburnspur.
Auburnspur I don't think you wan't to admit coming up with your id name, as it is laughable, what are you a rednuts, but afraid to call it what it is, auburn seriously, or is this a girls id name, in that case sorry mam no offence.
You sound like a poly, I know absolutely nothing about it and didn't even read the article. What are you running for office?, that lame defence won't get you anywhere, I believe full well that you read what you wrote, as firstly you admitted to cut and pasting it, what did you do it with your eyes closed, secondly you were looking for that sort of controversy, and you knew something of this nature would come up, why else would you google 'controversy' with his name, thats all I did, you did wrong, just admit it, you can't play dumb here. Are we to believe you googled his name along with "controversy" and pasted the article with no knowledge that something 'controversial' about Woodgate would come up, you know exactly what you were looking for, If you describe something or someone as controversial , you mean that they are the subject of intense public argument, disagreement, or disapproval. In this case it was dissapproval for Woodgate's actions.
/size][size=0pt][/color]Also the most damming piece of evidence is when you cut and paste from an external source the editing font sizes, type etc come up, which don't appear in your pasted article, so you have removed them manually by going through it and deleting them, which, you would be directly going through the article, reading it.[/size][size=0pt][/color][/size]
I have cut and pasted these from an external source, so you can see the editing. [/font].
I rest my case....
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apparently if Oswald Woodgate isnt fit by January, Levy is thinking of getting in Marlon King who Arry feels is very good in the air and has even more pace then Dawson.... also has good experience of defending space in congested areas nowadays and has potential to play in central-defence...
would be criminal not too really..
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We all new this was going to be a risky deal. He did well for us in his 1st season played in the majority of games as I recall. Since then he has had a tough time, It would probably be best for him if he called it a day. There's a lot of life to be lived after football and he is still quite a young man. If he's not careful he could do himself irreparable damage. Sometimes you just have to say enough is enough. Whatever happens i wish him well.
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We all new this was going to be a risky deal. He did well for us in his 1st season played in the majority of games as I recall. Since then he has had a tough time, It would probably be best for him if he called it a day. There's a lot of life to be lived after football and he is still quite a young man. If he's not careful he could do himself irreparable damage. Sometimes you just have to say enough is enough. Whatever happens i wish him well.
Couldn't agree anymore with you taimedowne, it's a real shame but at the end of the day the lad dosen't want to end up in a wheelchair or anything like that !!!!
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Auburnspur you didn't answer the first question, let me remind you that your under oath Auburnspur.
Auburnspur I don't think you wan't to admit coming up with your id name, as it is laughable, what are you a rednuts, but afraid to call it what it is, auburn seriously, or is this a girls id name, in that case sorry mam no offence.
You sound like a poly, I know absolutely nothing about it and didn't even read the article. What are you running for office?, that lame defence won't get you anywhere, I believe full well that you read what you wrote, as firstly you admitted to cut and pasting it, what did you do it with your eyes closed, secondly you were looking for that sort of controversy, and you knew something of this nature would come up, why else would you google 'controversy' with his name, thats all I did, you did wrong, just admit it, you can't play dumb here. Are we to believe you googled his name along with "controversy" and pasted the article with no knowledge that something 'controversial' about Woodgate would come up, you know exactly what you were looking for, If you describe something or someone as controversial , you mean that they are the subject of intense public argument, disagreement, or disapproval. In this case it was dissapproval for Woodgate's actions.
/size][size=0pt][/color]Also the most damming piece of evidence is when you cut and paste from an external source the editing font sizes, type etc come up, which don't appear in your pasted article, so you have removed them manually by going through it and deleting them, which, you would be directly going through the article, reading it.[/size][size=0pt][/color][/size]
I have cut and pasted these from an external source, so you can see the editing. [/font].
I rest my case....
I graduated from Auburn University (Auburn, AL, USA) and am a huge fan of my alma mater, hence he use of Auburn in my screen name. The question was asked for someone to expound on what they were talking about regarding Woodgate, so I found an article explaining what the poster was talking about. Nothing sinister going on. A question was asked & I answered it.
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is that still 1 of the colleges in The South, USA where the students are contractually obliged not to date persons of a different race ??
I couldnt believe this sorta thing still existed in USA up until 2yrs ago when I read about it...
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is that still 1 of the colleges in The South, USA where the students are contractually obliged not to date persons of a different race ??
I couldnt believe this sorta thing still existed in USA up until 2yrs ago when I read about it...
This whole racism thing really seems to fascinate you. Have you been racially abused or something? Racism is appalling but to see a racism conspiracy everywhere is not very healthy, is it?
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lol yeah I've been racially abused by a yank neo-con porn-baron who couldnt run very fast when covering the rightside of defence :P
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is that still 1 of the colleges in The South, USA where the students are contractually obliged not to date persons of a different race ??
I couldnt believe this sorta thing still existed in USA up until 2yrs ago when I read about it...
Yes - it's part of the pact the Tri-Lateral Commission requires us to sign when we pledge a fraternity. WE'RE WATCHING YOU! 8D
You were joking, right?
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Grant and Sherman shudda finished you Southerners off once and for all when they had a chance.... or made you eat gumbo for a month of Sundays..
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Just reminding if the racist thing is going too far im locking it. We dont want fights between members do we :D *Cause actually i dont really see what does racist in this thread got to do with Woodgate*
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Grant and Sherman shudda finished you Southerners off once and for all when they had a chance.... or made you eat gumbo for a month of Sundays..
Decry racism against Gallas and then resort to weak stereotypes about the South. Nice - Tolerant of all but those who disagree with you, just like a true man of the New Left. VIVA LA REVOLUCION! Were you glad to see El Presidente out in public again?
Also, I'd be in heaven if my punishment were to eat gumbo. Cajuns may be nuts, but I love their food!
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Soooooooooooooooooooo bout Woody I can't see him coming back anytime soon, questions is would you let him go completely, or him stay on as a coach???
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Soooooooooooooooooooo bout Woody I can't see him coming back anytime soon, questions is would you let him go completely, or him stay on as a coach???
I think you need some license to work as a coach, maybe he has been smart enough to get his coaching badges during the long lay-off.
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correct moi if I'm wrong Auburn but t'was vous who started the racist drivel with your cliched cartoon on those cheese-eating surrender monkeys (as your fellow couintryman once coined te phrase)....
but I tire of this unseemliness, lets us move on to higher pursuits.... so...
shot O'Bama yet ??..... lol... only kidding..
desist forthwith !!
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Woody would be a great coach for defenders. Maybe not directly but he might be able to learn his trade with us. He has great positional sense and he might be able to rub em on them kids ya know?
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Well knowin Harry it wouldnt suprise me to see him keep woody on as staff. As for Woddy having coaching badges I don't think he has that much forward thinking in him. I really do hope he comes back soon, then we won't see that much of Gallas. :D
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Woodgate needs to go open a hair-salon somewhere.... downtown Baghdad would be my choice..
Galllas will be playing quite a few games over the next TWO years for Spurs..
I really feel that if Dawson truly BELIEVES that he has what it takes to become an England contender, then he will need to move on to get regular 1st Team football... somewhere like Stoke or possibly even Villa... on 2nd thoughts forget Villa...
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Whatever he does, he will always be a Legend for that goal and THAT face against Chelskik in the cup final, ooh and his wierd celebration against Hull also made me chuckle. Ahhhhhhhhhh memories.
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that last sentence YJ..... you sound like Hugh Hefner on his deathbed... :P
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correct moi if I'm wrong Auburn but t'was vous who started the racist drivel with your cliched cartoon on those cheese-eating surrender monkeys (as your fellow couintryman once coined te phrase)....
but I tire of this unseemliness, lets us move on to higher pursuits.... so...
shot O'Bama yet ??..... lol... only kidding..
desist forthwith !!
I don't want to live in a world where making fun of the French is wrong! Weren't you the one ridiculing someone's grasp of the English language? Might want to check your expansive definition of "racist." A harmless joke using a picture to poke fun at French military history hardly warrants a reply of "the North should have killed you Southerners."
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I never used the word 'killed'.... finished you off may well have meant sending you all to bed without your supper
even I know that all Southerners arent rabid inbred rednecks in gingham-shirts chewing pieces of straw.... its probably tobakky :P
I LURVED Barbie Ewing back in the 80s..... he's from Texas you know...
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So whats everyones else's favourite Woody moment????
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So whats everyones else's favourite Woody moment? ???
The goal against Chelsea, of course. And his face when he was pictured clubbing with Crouch was fenomenal as
well.
(http://www.boxofficefootball.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/peter-crouch-clubbing.jpg)
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hahahaha oh yeah, he looks like James May there :2funny: Whats the bets Crouchy ended up in bed with a hooker on that night :lol:
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Fav woody moment has got to be the goal against Chelskum and winning the League cup!
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His goal in the league cup final. No doubt!
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I just can't settle on 1 favourite Woodgate moment - there have been so many dozens to choose from over the 5 games he's played for us..
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I just can't settle on 1 favourite Woodgate moment - there have been so many dozens to choose from over the 5 games he's played for us..
He's played 64 times for Spurs and scored 3 goals including the winner in the league cup final. Not bad over 2 and a half seasons for an injury ridden player...in fact over 2008-2009 he played in 44 games.
It's very obvious that you don't like him, we get it, but some of us can see the value and will thank him not least for his part in winning our first trophy for 10-odd years. No-one asks for their career to be ended if that's the way it looks.
Once again admins, I call "troll". Some of Gareth's posts go far beyond 'banter' and seem specifically designed to be more than contraversial...it's baiting.
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yeah but personally, the dozens of memorable incidents of Mr Stripes on Spurs duty all occurred over those said 5 games... now how is that possibly baiting ??....
you reallly must toughen up.... Football discussion is a man's game you know...
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Auburnspur lol fair enough, was just having a dig, couldn't help it, I'm sure you could tell I wasn't serious as was just having fun with it, ok, all good, I had my two cents I'm happy ha ha. I thought the question was a poll to see who thought he would retire etc, ever play again, so maybe I'm lost.
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Auburnspur lol fair enough, was just having a dig, couldn't help it, I'm sure you could tell I wasn't serious as was just having fun with it, ok, all good, I had my two cents I'm happy ha ha. I thought the question was a poll to see who thought he would retire etc, ever play again, so maybe I'm lost.
No blood no foul, right? ;)
FYI - just noticed the end of your previous post regarding removing formatting. I didn't remove anything, so not sure why it didn't look the way you'd expect. Maybe IE8 smooths that out or something.
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I just can't settle on 1 favourite Woodgate moment - there have been so many dozens to choose from over the 5 games he's played for us..
Actually Sky Sports news did a piece on Woodgate yesterday and the surprising stat was that he has played in 57% of games since he arrived. He's been out so long that seems unlikely but he played a whole season injury free when he 1st arrived.
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I just can't settle on 1 favourite Woodgate moment - there have been so many dozens to choose from over the 5 games he's played for us..
Actually Sky Sports news did a piece on Woodgate yesterday and the surprising stat was that he has played in 57% of games since he arrived. He's been out so long that seems unlikely but he played a whole season injury free when he 1st arrived.
Woody was awesome in that full season he played. Such a shame IF he cant get back :'(
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Woody is a great player, since he was at Leeds, going to be gutted for him if he cant recover which looks more unlikely.
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in all honesty, I hope he never puts on a Spurs shirt again... we have moved on now...
good but quite over-rated CB who spent half his career on the treatment-table and combing his hair...
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In your opinion Gareth...
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in all honesty, I hope he never puts on a Spurs shirt again... we have moved on now...
good but quite over-rated CB who spent half his career on the treatment-table and combing his hair...
Real Madrid don't sign you for £13.4 million if your over rated, once again all you do is spout sh1t to make yourself centre of attention !!
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Real Madrid spending silly money on pretty-boys with nice hair ??..... would never happen..
Woodgate for Overlord of the Universe !!