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Tottenham Discussion => Spurs Chat => Topic started by: Glenn R on September 30, 2014, 05:27:40 PM
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Spurs; thank god for other failures, and then there is Pochettino.
In my last article we had just drawn against Sunderland (a match we should have won), this then was followed by a Europa goalless draw against Partizan Belgrade, at their FK Partizan Stadium. That was an okish result and we played reasonably well. Saying that we had 64% of the possession so maybe we should have expected something better. Then we moved on to a team that was struggling at the bottom of the table, WBA. As I sat ready and waiting for the massacre to begin, I said to the guy next to me, at the match, “If we can’t beat them we might as well go home.” Well we did go home, but after the match, and with our heads held down. We had 62% of the possession and nothing to show for it. We had one shot to their four. We are talking about a team that was at the bottom of the table without a win to their name (that is up and until they met us, that is). What went wrong? The lone striker up front had failed us again; in particularly Adebayor. A total waste of space. Why we didn’t buy another striker before the season began, God only knows. If it wasn’t for the other teams performing badly (apart from Ars*nal, who won that weekend) we might have written off our chances of ending the season in the top four.
Our next match was against the Championships leading team, Nottingham Forest, in the Capital one cup. Spurs put a good team together for this match (9 changes from the WBA game), but it didn’t show in the first half. Nottingham Forest played well and deserved to be on equal footing with a Premier League team (who on paper should have been far superior). The second half started well (for Forest). They went a goal up (Grant in 61 minutes). We hung our heads down again, thinking, “Here we go again”. A phrase that is starting to become too familiar for us of late. Then a couple of inspired substitutions by Pochettino. Mason for Stambouli and Kane for Paulinho (both in the 64th minute). Eight minutes later Mason scored, followed by Soldado 11 minutes after Mason spectacular goal. Kane, the other substitution, scored for Spurs in the 90th minute. Forest was finally dead and buried.
After the match Pochettino said "We always believed that we can come back into the game, always believed that it was possible to recover the result. Now I am happy, happy for the players because it was a great effort. Never in doubt. Going 1-0 down was difficult, but we got a great reaction, an important reaction for our supporters, who encouraged us and backed us. It was great after the result. We won and I am happy for the players."
Pochettino had made 11 changes from the WBA game. Soldado is a player that works better up front with another striker. Mason showed his potential and worked well behind the two strikers. So the logical conclusion should have been to put Kane and Soldado up front with Mason in midfield. I would probably have also used Fazio and Stambouli for the up and coming game against our old adversary.
Along comes Saturday and the cap-shooters (or, as some may call them, “The Gunners”). What did Maurice Pochettino do? Well, he included Mason (great), but dropped Kane and Able (sorry, Soldado) in favour of Adebayor. Which I couldn’t understand. Soldado had scored two goals this season. Kane also had scored two goals (three if you count the own goal). Both times they scored their goals when they were together in the same team. What does that tell you? That those two together are a lot better than Adebayor alone. There was also no room for Kazio and Stambouli. The team he picked was Lloris, Vertonghen, Naughton, Kaboul, Rose (Dier - 83’), Capoue, Chadli (Bentaleb - 80' ), Mason, Lamela, Eriksen (Lennon - 62') and Adebayor. For that what did we get? Well, putting the draw to one side for a moment, we got 31% of the possession to Ars*nal’s 69%. They had six goals on target to our four, but we got a draw.
Mauricio Pochettino had said after the game: "I think it is a good result for us. Maybe Ars*nal controlled the game and had the ball more than us but we played well and defended well. We scored a great goal. This is our philosophy, which is difficult to keep for 90 minutes at the moment, but we are on our way."
Were we lucky or was it just down to good defending? Whichever way you look at it our problems are still up front. Why is he staying faithful to Adebayor? He has a track record of blowing hot and cold; he is well passed his sell by date. Soldado is not a player that plays alone up front. He works well with another striker (that would be Kane, not Adebayor). In the Forest game Pochettino made an inspiring substitution, as I said. But for one of the most important games of the season he decides to stick with Adebayor. AVB eventually dropped him because of his attitude. He started well with Sherwood and then withered with time. So nothing unusual there then. Maybe we should look back at Pochettino’s comments, after the Ars*nal game, when he said, “We scored a great goal. This is our philosophy, which is difficult to keep for 90 minutes at the moment, but we are on our way." The word that sticks out is “philosophy”. Whatever he does have in his mind doesn’t include Kane and Able, therefore he is stuck with Adebayor. Now I don’t have a problem with that, providing we are winning. But we are staggering. Whatever he has planned, he needs to sort it out, and sort it out quickly.
The teams that are candidates for possible top four positions are Chelsea, City, Liverpool, Everton, United (maybe), and the Arse. I am quite confident in saying that Chelsea and City will be there. That leaves two places and five teams (including us) fighting for those two positions. Yesterday the Arse, Liverpool, and Everton drew, while United won. Liverpool and Everton are below us, while United have the same points as us. Ars*nal is two points above us in fourth. This would mean, apart from Chelsea & City, that the other teams have obliged us with getting poor results (so far). We are relying too much on the other teams to drop points. If it wasn’t for those teams we would have been considered a write off for the rest of our season.
Our next two matches are going to be very interesting games. Besiktas in the Europa match and Pochettino’s old team Southampton, who are doing quite well at the moment. Both matches will be at White Hart Lane. Then we move on to some serious s**t; City, away. Lose the first two at home, then God help us against City, is all I can say.
A personal message to Maurice Pochettino; For God’s sake get your philosophy right or you will end up like AVB and the lacklustre Tim Sherwood, and we don’t want that, you don’t want that! Getting your philosophy right halfway through the season and then shouting “Eureka, I’ve found the right mixture for Spurs to Premier league domination,” while the rest of the teams’ have passed you/ us by and we are mid-table or worse, won’t give your philosophy Brownie points! What it could end up giving you is a quick swift kick up the arse-nal and into outer space and oblivion. Or am I being unfair and the finger shouldn’t be pointed at you, but higher up the food chain and you are doing the best with a bad job lot, just like your predecessors?
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Good points raised Voice. I seem to think it boils down to a similar problem that AVB experienced, in that Poch really doesn't have the players he needs to play the kind of football that he wants to, ie passing out from the back, quick movement through a midfield that gets up with and supports a lone striker, who then doesn't keep missing, and who are prepared to immediately track back and regain possession when it breaks down.
All of which begs the question : What conversation did Poch, and AVB before him, have with Levy about what the club expects, what the manager expects, and which players are needed to achieve those goals. Something is seriously not working with this Levy / Baldini / Manager system.
The fact that we are still linked with Schneiderlin and Rodrigues would indicate that if given the time, and the players he wants, then Poch might have some chance of turning things around.
I hope for one that he is given all he needs. I do realise that getting the players we need is never going to be easy in this greed filled, instant success football world we all live in.
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Not a bad piece Voice, unfortunately you have joined the Adebayor knockers, you can't blame Ade, he works hard and tries to bring other players into the game, for him to operate effectively he needs support and at the moment he has NONE, simply because our MIDFIELD is non-existent, against both WBA and the Arse... when the defence was under pressure all they did was hoof the ball out in the general direction of Ade, hoping he could hold off 2 defenders if, again I say IF, the ball did in fact reach him, and in most cases it didn't, and as a consequence it went straight back, thus putting our defence under even more pressure. How can you possibly expect him to hold the ball, when he has to keep 2 defenders at bay, while our midfield catches up to him, I would say in most cases it is virtually impossible. Whilst I think Mason is certainly a player for the future, last weeks game was not the right game to give him his PL debut, not when we have a player of Stambouli's quality, who I might add, wasn't even on the bench. I sometimes really don't understand some of Poch's selections and substitutions. :nope: :nope: Just my opinion. :-\ :-\ :-\
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...when we have a player of Stambouli's quality, who I might add, wasn't even on the bench. I sometimes really don't understand some of Poch's selections and substitutions.
Maybe Stambouli et al are Baldini's signings?
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...when we have a player of Stambouli's quality, who I might add, wasn't even on the bench. I sometimes really don't understand some of Poch's selections and substitutions.
Maybe Stambouli et al are Baldini's signings?
That would make sense!
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Not a bad piece Voice, unfortunately you have joined the Adebayor knockers, you can't blame Ade, he works hard and tries to bring other players into the game, for him to operate effectively he needs support and at the moment he has NONE, simply because our MIDFIELD is non-existent, against both WBA and the Arse... when the defence was under pressure all they did was hoof the ball out in the general direction of Ade, hoping he could hold off 2 defenders if, again I say IF, the ball did in fact reach him, and in most cases it didn't, and as a consequence it went straight back, thus putting our defence under even more pressure. How can you possibly expect him to hold the ball, when he has to keep 2 defenders at bay, while our midfield catches up to him, I would say in most cases it is virtually impossible. Whilst I think Mason is certainly a player for the future, last weeks game was not the right game to give him his PL debut, not when we have a player of Stambouli's quality, who I might add, wasn't even on the bench. I sometimes really don't understand some of Poch's selections and substitutions. :nope: :nope: Just my opinion. :-\ :-\ :-\
Thanks. I don’t think it is a case of joining Ade’s knockers, but just looking at the facts. Concerning him and AVB; he (Ade) admitted that he didn’t play to his full potential and let his family down. Under Sherwood he started strong and faded. Under Pochettino he has only scored one goal. However, Kane and Soldado – together have done better. Now the argument could be that he isn’t getting the ball (which is a fair point) and I did say that no matter who is up front so long as we score.
Anyway, on another note; if you believe the papers we will be buying a striker in the transfer window.
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Good points raised Voice. I seem to think it boils down to a similar problem that AVB experienced, in that Poch really doesn't have the players he needs to play the kind of football that he wants to, ie passing out from the back, quick movement through a midfield that gets up with and supports a lone striker, who then doesn't keep missing, and who are prepared to immediately track back and regain possession when it breaks down.
That is a good point. the Players Pochettino has, or at least most of them, he inherited. That is why he needs to be given time.
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An interesting article above but I don't think we should be judging Pochettino at the moment. He has just arrived so I expect him to take some time to settle in. He also has to build his team and when I say his team I mean the players he brings in, not those that he inherited.
As for one or two strikers up front or whether we have the right strikers, again I shall wait and see. We have only played a handful of games so it is too early to judge. That is my opinion.
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An interesting article above but I don't think we should be judging Pochettino at the moment. He has just arrived so I expect him to take some time to settle in. He also has to build his team and when I say his team I mean the players he brings in, not those that he inherited.
As for one or two strikers up front or whether we have the right strikers, again I shall wait and see. We have only played a handful of games so it is too early to judge. That is my opinion.
Time to settle down? Would December 31st be long enough? We should see a difference by then and start the new year on the front foot. The Ars*nal draw was unexpected and we need 3 points on both home games this week. If, as you say, we have the strikers, the it shoudn't be a problem. As long as Pochettino knows what is is doing, we could also finish the year on a high, but I am not so sure!
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Most of this I agree with except for the Ade part and Sherwood part, firstly Soldado would have had the same problem as Ade upfront against Ars*nal or anyone else as yes the one upfront is absolutly ridiculous!, unless we have Messi or Bale back!, we used to be a team with lightning pace but now a snail could catch us when we break!, Lennon has lost a yard of pace Chadli for a winger has none, Erricksen Paulihno, Cappoue Dembelle Bentaleb have none :'( , Townsend has but ofton we only see glimses of his potential and he cuts inside then theirs our record signing Lamela!, who for a winger is very slow, he has no physical strength but is gifted technialy!, but is he really what we need?, when you look at those crop off players you see good defensive midfielders with a few attacking ones that need the ball to feet and like to play slow moving football!, which is where we are now, Erricksen and Lamela are the technical players we have to make our team tick but with out two upfront they are usually in areas that dont hurt other teams because we have either given the ball away in our half or we have won possession back in our half and their is no out let as Ade is being marked by two or three defenders on the half way line!, yes Voice you are right we should be playing Kane in a two upfront formation with Ade or Soldado playing 4-4-2, Kane with his work rate chases the ball down in the opponents half putting pressure on them and giving uus opputunities to win the ball back and keep other teams on the back foot, we also then as we saw in the Forrest game give the other striker(Soldado ) liscense to roam dragging defenders out of position creating space for our midfield players to move into. Tim Sherwood when he took charge went straight back to 4-4-2 and after it taking us something like 8 or 9 games to score 15-17 goals with AVB we scored that in about 5 with Tim, we where playing much more attack minded system and our league results with him where the highest percentage of ANY MANANGER who has managed Spurs in the premier league!, so to sack him was nothing but stupid but alas that is history now, anyway Pochettino comes in saying we are going to close teams down high up the pitch, play fast flowing football blah blah blah and what happens we play one upfront, play in our own half, have some lovely passing and possesion but NO cutting edge!, we Dont close teams down in their half and we look a million miles away from the top 4, we are top 7 at best and yet again have gone backwards. >:(
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An interesting article above but I don't think we should be judging Pochettino at the moment. He has just arrived so I expect him to take some time to settle in. He also has to build his team and when I say his team I mean the players he brings in, not those that he inherited.
As for one or two strikers up front or whether we have the right strikers, again I shall wait and see. We have only played a handful of games so it is too early to judge. That is my opinion.
Time to settle down? Would December 31st be long enough? We should see a difference by then and start the new year on the front foot. The Ars*nal draw was unexpected and we need 3 points on both home games this week. If, as you say, we have the strikers, the it shoudn't be a problem. As long as Pochettino knows what is is doing, we could also finish the year on a high, but I am not so sure!
It took Alex Ferguson 5 years to settle down and look what he achieved. So I doubt the 31st will be long enough.
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Lol yeah and MU nearly got relegated in his first season in charge! alas those days are well gone!, its quick success or bye bye now and our club has been one of the worst for sacking managers in the last 20 years!, what I still cannot get my head round is why we never brought in any players of real pace!, we let Welbeck slip if there ever was a deal in the first place but that transfer was a prime example!, Ars*nal got a real bargain there at half the price Lamela cost us!, alot of it must be blamed on our scouts who I think must be of kindergarden intellegance! and a Chairmen that manages the buissness of the club well but does not see the real bigger picture!, we have really dropped of the pace and short of some players with Bolts speed coming in we are only going to keep fading untill we eventually start fighting just to get into the Europe let alone the CL. :'(
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An interesting article above but I don't think we should be judging Pochettino at the moment. He has just arrived so I expect him to take some time to settle in. He also has to build his team and when I say his team I mean the players he brings in, not those that he inherited.
As for one or two strikers up front or whether we have the right strikers, again I shall wait and see. We have only played a handful of games so it is too early to judge. That is my opinion.
Time to settle down? Would December 31st be long enough? We should see a difference by then and start the new year on the front foot. The Ars*nal draw was unexpected and we need 3 points on both home games this week. If, as you say, we have the strikers, the it shoudn't be a problem. As long as Pochettino knows what is is doing, we could also finish the year on a high, but I am not so sure!
It took Alex Ferguson 5 years to settle down and look what he achieved. So I doubt the 31st will be long enough.
It would be a grave error to compare SAF with MP (!) even at this early stage. I don't think any of us is daft enough to believe that, should we be on the blink of relegation at the end of the season, Pochettino would still be in charge next season.
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An interesting article above but I don't think we should be judging Pochettino at the moment. He has just arrived so I expect him to take some time to settle in. He also has to build his team and when I say his team I mean the players he brings in, not those that he inherited.
As for one or two strikers up front or whether we have the right strikers, again I shall wait and see. We have only played a handful of games so it is too early to judge. That is my opinion.
Time to settle down? Would December 31st be long enough? We should see a difference by then and start the new year on the front foot. The Ars*nal draw was unexpected and we need 3 points on both home games this week. If, as you say, we have the strikers, the it shoudn't be a problem. As long as Pochettino knows what is is doing, we could also finish the year on a high, but I am not so sure!
I don't know. But we just can't keep sacking managers.
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An interesting article above but I don't think we should be judging Pochettino at the moment. He has just arrived so I expect him to take some time to settle in. He also has to build his team and when I say his team I mean the players he brings in, not those that he inherited.
As for one or two strikers up front or whether we have the right strikers, again I shall wait and see. We have only played a handful of games so it is too early to judge. That is my opinion.
Time to settle down? Would December 31st be long enough? We should see a difference by then and start the new year on the front foot. The Ars*nal draw was unexpected and we need 3 points on both home games this week. If, as you say, we have the strikers, the it shoudn't be a problem. As long as Pochettino knows what is is doing, we could also finish the year on a high, but I am not so sure!
I don't know. But we just can't keep sacking managers.
I agree. We've had 9 managers under Levy. We need to give Pochettino time.
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An interesting article above but I don't think we should be judging Pochettino at the moment. He has just arrived so I expect him to take some time to settle in. He also has to build his team and when I say his team I mean the players he brings in, not those that he inherited.
As for one or two strikers up front or whether we have the right strikers, again I shall wait and see. We have only played a handful of games so it is too early to judge. That is my opinion.
Time to settle down? Would December 31st be long enough? We should see a difference by then and start the new year on the front foot. The Ars*nal draw was unexpected and we need 3 points on both home games this week. If, as you say, we have the strikers, the it shoudn't be a problem. As long as Pochettino knows what is is doing, we could also finish the year on a high, but I am not so sure!
It took Alex Ferguson 5 years to settle down and look what he achieved. So I doubt the 31st will be long enough.
Voice, I am not being argumentative, but why must you keep making the same statement, I seem to remember you saying the same thing just after AVB was installed. ??? ???
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An interesting article above but I don't think we should be judging Pochettino at the moment. He has just arrived so I expect him to take some time to settle in. He also has to build his team and when I say his team I mean the players he brings in, not those that he inherited.
As for one or two strikers up front or whether we have the right strikers, again I shall wait and see. We have only played a handful of games so it is too early to judge. That is my opinion.
Time to settle down? Would December 31st be long enough? We should see a difference by then and start the new year on the front foot. The Ars*nal draw was unexpected and we need 3 points on both home games this week. If, as you say, we have the strikers, the it shoudn't be a problem. As long as Pochettino knows what is is doing, we could also finish the year on a high, but I am not so sure!
It took Alex Ferguson 5 years to settle down and look what he achieved. So I doubt the 31st will be long enough.
Voice, I am not being argumentative, but why must you keep making the same statement, I seem to remember you saying the same thing just after AVB was installed. ??? ???
I must agree if we are talking about past ways. Managers’ like Ferguson were given time, nowadays, even Ferguson would be sacked if he did not get the team right within a season. The current manager of United needs to sort something out pretty quickly before he is dust. I did say in an earlier post that we do need to give our manager time. And yes I do see the contradiction in my statement. Nevertheless, what I do say in favour of Pochettino is that Levy has had 9 or so managers’ since he has ruled the roost, therefore, even he must sit back and take note. At least, under the Glaziers, they have had only three managers since taking over. So a few more sackings will not hurt their reputation. Unlike Levy’s.
Jane :dance:
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Many of you keep mentioning the time word! but this is not modern day football!, we gave Harry time and he DID deliver!, No trophys but a champions league place and a team that played attractive free flowing football!, sure we lost a few and our defence was always suspect so that was the real main area to tweak but over all we had a real top 4 challenging team!, a real good feel factor and anticipation that we could just do something special soon!, but that was not good enough for Levy or some of the fans who wanted even better!!!, well the phrase " be carefull what you wish for" springs to mind because we are galaxys away from that now! we have ripped apart a very good team thrown in some promising stars and expected them to become world beaters.... stupid!, Tim Sherwood after Thursday game said something that was spot on!.." you need a good blend of yourth and experience" so the younger players can learn and fine tune their game, we had that with Harry but now we have no real leader, no fight, no speed, or conistent quality ball controll, no closing down and the whole team itself looks to waiting for someone else to flick a switch and take charge!, our buys have not even been average at best so now we are just left to fall away. Our youngsters are looking around for help and their is just no Real experience left!, How are so many new and young players going to form a bond when players and managers are in and out like yoyos!... Pochettino is no different from what we have tried (AVB), Levy says he will give hi time LMFAO!, do you really believe that if in 5 or 6 more games our football on the pitch is anything like what it is now!.. I DONT THINK SO!, there has to be some progression, some improvement in quality, team ethics, team spirit and ofcourse RESULTS!, which in this modern(chairmens) day football COUNTS FOR EVERYTHING!!!!.
I blame Levy! he wanted young managers AVB and now MP but all he has done is the same as the managers themselves have done swap old for new! but in doing so has failed to realise that AVB/MP do not have the experience when they DONT ALREADY HAVE A GREAT TEAM!, AVB thought it would be rosy spending 100m+ on some good prospects and a few gambles, and it looks no different with MP as his signings are some what bizzar!, they are no world beaters, they are not even well known except Ben Davis or Vorm but they dont even play in the first team!, Eric Dier is the only player I think looks anywhere near a good signing! but where are the Scot Parkers, RVT, Gerrards and Lampards?, we get Stamboli, Chelsea get Fabregas!, we get Federico Fazio, Chelsea get Costa!, I could go on and on the oucome is always the same... we buy everyone elses cast offs and that is also the reason we are now in a complete mess.
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An interesting article above but I don't think we should be judging Pochettino at the moment. He has just arrived so I expect him to take some time to settle in. He also has to build his team and when I say his team I mean the players he brings in, not those that he inherited.
As for one or two strikers up front or whether we have the right strikers, again I shall wait and see. We have only played a handful of games so it is too early to judge. That is my opinion.
Time to settle down? Would December 31st be long enough? We should see a difference by then and start the new year on the front foot. The Ars*nal draw was unexpected and we need 3 points on both home games this week. If, as you say, we have the strikers, the it shoudn't be a problem. As long as Pochettino knows what is is doing, we could also finish the year on a high, but I am not so sure!
It took Alex Ferguson 5 years to settle down and look what he achieved. So I doubt the 31st will be long enough.
Voice, I am not being argumentative, but why must you keep making the same statement, I seem to remember you saying the same thing just after AVB was installed. ??? ???
Simples! I write in many different places concerning Spurs, so I can’t always remember where I said what or why. I also noticed other members have also repeated themselves in other posts. Intolerable. However, I understand your concerns are not about other members, but me personally. I also accept that you are not trying to be “argumentative” so I have taken your comments in good faith. What to do about it then? Testicles, pliers etc, comes to mind, however, that would need a more hands on approach. Leave it with me and I try to come up with a solution. Not just for me, but others on here, who should dare to step on the minefield of such repetitiveness. I know you will keep an eye on me, if I should dare to slip up again, and I shall keep an eye on others who should repeat themselves (including your good-self). Between us, we should remove those miscreants who attempt at repetitiveness (sorry, monotony).
Sorry I didn’t answer you sooner, I’ve been too busy in other places repeating myself.
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And this ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ is why I dont bother with this forum anymore!
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And this ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ is why I dont bother with this forum anymore!
Hi, I am new here and I hope you don’t mind me saying, but I read that as good humoured banter. I am sure the original poster of the comments meant his remarks in jest, and the other poster responded likewise. I am sure nobody is going to complain seriously if somebody repeats him or her self, and he did say he wasn’t trying to be argumentative. I joined to speak to like minded Spurs supporters and it seens all good intentioned. The comments made me smile. I would like to chat with all Spurs minded people so I do hope you continue posting. No forum can be that strict that you can’t banter with each other, surely. Or even repeat yourself?
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And this ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ is why I dont bother with this forum anymore!
Hi, I am new here and I hope you don’t mind me saying, but I read that as good humoured banter. I am sure the original poster of the comments meant his remarks in jest, and the other poster responded likewise. I am sure nobody is going to complain seriously if somebody repeats him or her self, and he did say he wasn’t trying to be argumentative. I joined to speak to like minded Spurs supporters and it seens all good intentioned. The comments made me smile. I would like to chat with all Spurs minded people so I do hope you continue posting. No forum can be that strict that you can’t banter with each other, surely. Or even repeat yourself?
Hi Spurs X, I also think it was just a fun response. They both were pulling each others legs. That is what I like about forums, it is for fun, not just Spurs talk.
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Hi Jane and Spursx,
Of course Paul Finch was joking. Nobody is expecting to remember what they had previously said, more so when one writes a lot on Spurs, at various places. If he wasn't joking he would be an idiot, and Mr Finch isn't that. He just likes a good banter and windup. If he was serious we would be all guilty, not just me. That is forums for you; everybody trying to pull each other's legs. Oh, I cried with laughter when I read what he said. I thought "silly sausage.... god bless the old buffer for bringing some humour to this thread and going off topic". I laughed so much I cried. :up: :2funny: :2funny: :2funny:
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Thank you for that Jane and voice, I do appreciate good humour and it did make me laugh. That is why I enjoyed this forum and joined. I thought it was alright. And thank you Mr Finch. Keep it up. I have been down a bit lately and I needed cheering up. Serious discussion is ok, but we are yids and not just want talk. More so the way we have been playing of late.
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Great forum. Thanks everybody for making me laugh as well. Apart from the game on Sunday I was starting to feel down with the way we were going. Glad I joined.
Jane x :dance:
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Great forum. Thanks everybody for making me laugh as well. Apart from the game on Sunday I was starting to feel down with the way we were going. Glad I joined.
Jane x :dance:
I will follow that Jane. I shall certainly tell some of my Spurs mates about this forum. 8)
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An interesting article above but I don't think we should be judging Pochettino at the moment. He has just arrived so I expect him to take some time to settle in. He also has to build his team and when I say his team I mean the players he brings in, not those that he inherited.
As for one or two strikers up front or whether we have the right strikers, again I shall wait and see. We have only played a handful of games so it is too early to judge. That is my opinion.
Time to settle down? Would December 31st be long enough? We should see a difference by then and start the new year on the front foot. The Ars*nal draw was unexpected and we need 3 points on both home games this week. If, as you say, we have the strikers, the it shoudn't be a problem. As long as Pochettino knows what is is doing, we could also finish the year on a high, but I am not so sure!
It took Alex Ferguson 5 years to settle down and look what he achieved. So I doubt the 31st will be long enough.
It would be a grave error to compare SAF with MP (!) even at this early stage. I don't think any of us is daft enough to believe that, should we be on the blink of relegation at the end of the season, Pochettino would still be in charge next season.
The time Fergie was given will never be repeated by any club. Just look at Moyes for a start, and don't think it won't happen to VanGal if they slip up again this year.
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I think we are moving away from the topic itself guys & dolls, seriously do we really care what fergi, Venger, Gaal or whoever else does? hell no all I am bothered about is Tottenham Hotspur football club!, and how we are going or not so going at the moment!, sure we picked up a win a Southhampton Saturday and the movement for the goal was brilliant and nice to see but MP still has us sitting far to deep and we still do not hound the opposition in there own half!, if we were to address this a.s.a.p we could then start dictating games instead of playing this slow counter tactics, there are glimses of good quick breaks and Chadli is starting to look like a good make shift forward to support Ade, and by getting Erriksen in his prefered position higher up the pitch he can link our attacks and we see the best of him like on Sat, this can only be achieved by MP forcing his players to stay higher up the pitch, BUT I dont want the back four on the half way line like AVB as that leaves us way to vunrable to the ball in behind and we failed misserably like that last season.
I want to give MP all the chance in the world I really do but he must not take the quiet thoughtful approach he needs to impose hi authority right now and get the team motivated and not frightened to try his ideas!, if they are not prepared to do as he asks then ship them out.
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A bit of repetitiveness is okay, just try not to sound like a broken record, please.
Although talking of repetitiveness, I am starting to wonder if Spursx, Jane and Voice are all alter egos conversing with themselves. Are you all actually Voice or maybe Baldbloke has been here all along or heaven forbid Gareth Keown?
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As for the actual issue of Alex F, it really isn't relevant in today's world. Especially considering the side that gave him 5 years to get it right are the same side that dumped Moyes asap. So it really cannot be brought up as a yardstick any more.
Pochettino should be given more time, at least 2 full seasons if you ask me, and if it looks like it is going wrong in that time, it should be Levy to leave before Pochettino does.
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A bit of repetitiveness is okay, just try not to sound like a broken record, please.
Although talking of repetitiveness, I am starting to wonder if Spursx, Jane and Voice are all alter egos conversing with themselves. Are you all actually Voice or maybe Baldbloke has been here all along or heaven forbid Gareth Keown?
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I suppose anybody who agrees with me, or isn't attacking me could be regarded as my alter ego. No doubt, and like Baldbloke, the newbies will eventually be chased away, until we have happy one-thought thinking machine. And if I am still here will continue to be put up as skittles on a bowling alley. ;)
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As for the actual issue of Alex F, it really isn't relevant in today's world. Especially considering the side that gave him 5 years to get it right are the same side that dumped Moyes asap. So it really cannot be brought up as a yardstick any more.
Pochettino should be given more time, at least 2 full seasons if you ask me, and if it looks like it is going wrong in that time, it should be Levy to leave before Pochettino does.
I agree, and if you accept what the players are saying - including the commentators - his style and philosophy is starting to take hold. But that doesn't change the fact that we still need another striker.
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A bit of repetitiveness is okay, just try not to sound like a broken record, please.
Although talking of repetitiveness, I am starting to wonder if Spursx, Jane and Voice are all alter egos conversing with themselves. Are you all actually Voice or maybe Baldbloke has been here all along or heaven forbid Gareth Keown?
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I have just read this and I am confused. Are you suggesting that I am not who I say I am? Or is this just a joke? As I have said previously, I am new here so I am still getting the hang of this forum so I am not sure if this is just a forum joke or not. I joined because I found your website through google. I wanted to join a Spurs supporters forum. My real name is Lawrence, but I picked Spursx because I wanted to show my loyality to the name. I am sorry if I got the wrong end of the stick here.
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Come on, lads. No need for paranoia.
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I have just read this and I am confused. Are you suggesting that I am not who I say I am? Or is this just a joke? As I have said previously, I am new here so I am still getting the hang of this forum so I am not sure if this is just a forum joke or not. I joined because I found your website through google. I wanted to join a Spurs supporters forum. My real name is Lawrence, but I picked Spursx because I wanted to show my loyality to the name. I am sorry if I got the wrong end of the stick here.
Sorry Spursx, it was just a little banter with Voice, no offence or confusion meant. You are most welcome at Spursnetwork, the more the merrier. And no we don't want the newbies to be frightened away or to feel unwelcome. All ideas and opinions are welcome, as long as they agree with my own of course ;)
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I have just read this and I am confused. Are you suggesting that I am not who I say I am? Or is this just a joke? As I have said previously, I am new here so I am still getting the hang of this forum so I am not sure if this is just a forum joke or not. I joined because I found your website through google. I wanted to join a Spurs supporters forum. My real name is Lawrence, but I picked Spursx because I wanted to show my loyality to the name. I am sorry if I got the wrong end of the stick here.
Sorry Spursx, it was just a little banter with Voice, no offence or confusion meant. You are most welcome at Spursnetwork, the more the merrier. And no we don't want the newbies to be frightened away or to feel unwelcome. All ideas and opinions are welcome, as long as they agree with my own of course ;)
Yes, so long as they agree with yours; if they agree with mine then they are a doppelgänger(s), and that shouldn't be tolerated :up:
Just a little banter with your good-self. All good clean fun ;)
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I have just read this and I am confused. Are you suggesting that I am not who I say I am? Or is this just a joke? As I have said previously, I am new here so I am still getting the hang of this forum so I am not sure if this is just a forum joke or not. I joined because I found your website through google. I wanted to join a Spurs supporters forum. My real name is Lawrence, but I picked Spursx because I wanted to show my loyality to the name. I am sorry if I got the wrong end of the stick here.
Sorry Spursx, it was just a little banter with Voice, no offence or confusion meant. You are most welcome at Spursnetwork, the more the merrier. And no we don't want the newbies to be frightened away or to feel unwelcome. All ideas and opinions are welcome, as long as they agree with my own of course ;)
That is ok. I thought it might be forum teasing or banter. I had to ask because you never know and I might have said something inappropriate and being new I didn’t want to tread on anybody’s toes. I must admit I am a jokey sort of guy myself. You have to be supporting Spurs of late! As I am in a new environment I thought I would hold off with my jokes. I appreciate you putting me straight. :hide: