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Tottenham Discussion => Spurs Chat => Topic started by: Metalanimal on June 02, 2014, 06:17:13 PM
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Rumor only but Poch seems to feel Dawson is surplus to requirements and a host of clubs are apparently keen inc QPR, Caulker is being touted as his replacement as it would appear we have a buy back clause in his contract and cardiff are in financial poo so Spurs may capitalise.
I am never keen on players returning but for me Caulker is far from the finished product and as such I would welcome him back in a flash.
Should never have sold him so to get him back after a season away which would be like we put him out on loan I say get him back home!
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I have always wondered why we sold Caulker in the first place! strong defender full of promise! and we kept Naughton instead! ???
It will be a sad day when Dawson goes, but in truth he has spent one season too many with us and our defense is in need of serious surgery!
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Rumor only but Poch seems to feel Dawson is surplus to requirements and a host of clubs are apparently keen inc QPR, Caulker is being touted as his replacement as it would appear we have a buy back clause in his contract and cardiff are in financial poo so Spurs may capitalise.
I am never keen on players returning but for me Caulker is far from the finished product and as such I would welcome him back in a flash.
Should never have sold him so to get him back after a season away which would be like we put him out on loan I say get him back home!
In total agreement Metal. He has the potential to be the next John Terry, but with pace too.
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I think Dawson has been a great player for us over the years, When he was on his way out when AVB arrived, I was one who thought was crazy and he wasn't given a fair chance to prove himself. AVB quickly changed his mind and was right to do so.
However, at this time I do not mind if he stays or goes. If he stays he would be a reasonable squad player, but I think we need a long term, strong, fast and effective first team CB partnership. If Dawson want to leave or if we need to let him go to keep the wage bill down, then he goes with my blessing and thanks.
As for Caulker, I just do not understand how it can be that those in charge felt it was 'good business' or 'tactically sound' to let him go in the first place. I think everyone on here was saying so at the time and none of us would have sold him at all, unless we had at least a replacement that was of equal or better quality. This ineptitude is now highlighted further with the fact that they are now trying to get him back. I think it would be a good idea, but seriously why are we always making so many bad mistakes? (that was rhetorical, we all know why).
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I think Dawson has been a great player for us over the years, When he was on his way out when AVB arrived, I was one who thought was crazy and he wasn't given a fair chance to prove himself. AVB quickly changed his mind and was right to do so.
However, at this time I do not mind if he stays or goes. If he stays he would be a reasonable squad player, but I think we need a long term, strong, fast and effective first team CB partnership. If Dawson want to leave or if we need to let him go to keep the wage bill down, then he goes with my blessing and thanks.
As for Caulker, I just do not understand how it can be that those in charge felt it was 'good business' or 'tactically sound' to let him go in the first place. I think everyone on here was saying so at the time and none of us would have sold him at all, unless we had at least a replacement that was of equal or better quality. This ineptitude is now highlighted further with the fact that they are now trying to get him back. I think it would be a good idea, but seriously why are we always making so many bad mistakes? (that was rhetorical, we all know why).
If I remember correctly, AVB did not want Dawson, as he was too slow to play a high line defence that he favoured, and he actually had him sold, to QPR I think, but Daws didn.t want to go there. So why Caulker was then sold, especially with Kaboul's injury problems, is anyone's guess, maybe an attitude problem regards regular starts ? who knows. Either way, if we have a buyback clause, I would exercise it right away, before some other prem club snaps him up.
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If I remember correctly, AVB did not want Dawson, as he was too slow to play a high line defence that he favoured, and he actually had him sold, to QPR I think, but Daws didn.t want to go there. So why Caulker was then sold, especially with Kaboul's injury problems, is anyone's guess, maybe an attitude problem regards regular starts ? who knows. Either way, if we have a buyback clause, I would exercise it right away, before some other prem club snaps him up.
It was the other way around; Dawson didn't want to go and Redknapp wanted him. Anyway, he said today that he doesn't want to leave Spurs and will stay.
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Dawson is Spurs through and through but if he is happy to take a bit part role then I would say keep him as his experience is valuable and attitude to towards the club and game a great example to others.
If he wants more game time then he will have to move on I feel as even Kaboul will be ahead of him if he stays that is too!
I would welcome Caulker back and respect whatever Dawson chooses, if he goes then I wish him all the best if he stays as a squad player no real issue, what I wouldnt like to see is him pushed out of our club!
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Whilst it would sad to see Dawson leave(he is undoubtedly a real Spurs man), we have to look to the future, and Caulker could well be the future, if Dawson wants to stay and become a squad player then that's fine by me as the younger players would certainly benefit from his experience, obviously this would depend on whether he fits into the wage bill or not. I would hate to the Club Captain given the arse. :up: :up:
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If I remember correctly, AVB did not want Dawson, as he was too slow to play a high line defence that he favoured, and he actually had him sold, to QPR I think, but Daws didn.t want to go there. So why Caulker was then sold, especially with Kaboul's injury problems, is anyone's guess, maybe an attitude problem regards regular starts ? who knows. Either way, if we have a buyback clause, I would exercise it right away, before some other prem club snaps him up.
It was the other way around; Dawson didn't want to go and Redknapp wanted him. Anyway, he said today that he doesn't want to leave Spurs and will stay.
er...actually Voice, thats what I said, Daws didn't want to go there.
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I have to laugh at this one. Suddenly the media are announcing breaking news....Pottechino and Levy have confirmed that we need 2 full backs and a CB !!! LOL we've all been saying that for years.
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If I remember correctly, AVB did not want Dawson, as he was too slow to play a high line defence that he favoured, and he actually had him sold, to QPR I think, but Daws didn.t want to go there. So why Caulker was then sold, especially with Kaboul's injury problems, is anyone's guess, maybe an attitude problem regards regular starts ? who knows. Either way, if we have a buyback clause, I would exercise it right away, before some other prem club snaps him up.
It was the other way around; Dawson didn't want to go and Redknapp wanted him. Anyway, he said today that he doesn't want to leave Spurs and will stay.
er...actually Voice, thats what I said, Daws didn't want to go there.
Sorry, I misread that as you said somebody else.
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Crystal Palace have secured Caulkers services for next season for a mere 8 Million. Still believe we should have brought him back, perhaps there are other believed stronger targets on the radar?
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Crystal Palace have secured Caulkers services for next season for a mere 8 Million. Still believe we should have brought him back, perhaps there are other believed stronger targets on the radar?
I also thought we would get him back as well. Maybe they (spurs) know something we don't.
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Crystal Palace have secured Caulkers services for next season for a mere 8 Million. Still believe we should have brought him back, perhaps there are other believed stronger targets on the radar?
I also thought we would get him back as well. Maybe they (spurs) know something we don't.
I didn't find any confirmation of Caulker joining Palace. Maybe it's not done and dusted after all.
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Crystal Palace have secured Caulkers services for next season for a mere 8 Million. Still believe we should have brought him back, perhaps there are other believed stronger targets on the radar?
I also thought we would get him back as well. Maybe they (spurs) know something we don't.
I didn't find any confirmation of Caulker joining Palace. Maybe it's not done and dusted after all.
I was only going by the previous poster.
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I have just looked on the Palace Website and there is no announcement on there. So maybe there is a chance of us getting him back, I am sure that I read somewhere that we have a buy back clause. :nods: :nods: But I could be wrong. ??? ???
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Caulker coming back would be great news, but as he's English I cannot see how we would pay less for him than Cardiff did. Mind you, a certain Adam Lallana who turns 27 cost Liverpool £25m, so I very much doubt that 22-year-old Caulker would still cost £8m. Of course, I could be wrong. We all could.
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I thought the deal was done with Crystal Palace, fee agreed etc?
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Seeing as we've not been linked with Caulker, then maybe there's a good reason. He doesn't seem to have progressed at all over the last season.
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It seems Dawson doesn't want to go. Two years left on his contract, with a possibility of a Testimonial he won't see any point in leaving. Unless they offer him compensation.
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It seems Dawson doesn't want to go. Two years left on his contract, with a possibility of a Testimonial he won't see any point in leaving. Unless they offer him compensation.
The rules are the rules. If he is due a testimonial then he must get it, whether he leaves or not.
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It seems Dawson doesn't want to go. Two years left on his contract, with a possibility of a Testimonial he won't see any point in leaving. Unless they offer him compensation.
The rules are the rules. If he is due a testimonial then he must get it, whether he leaves or not.
But he is only due it if he gets the extra number of years in; leaving will mean he won't get there.
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It seems Dawson doesn't want to go. Two years left on his contract, with a possibility of a Testimonial he won't see any point in leaving. Unless they offer him compensation.
The rules are the rules. If he is due a testimonial then he must get it, whether he leaves or not.
But he is only due it if he gets the extra number of years in; leaving will mean he won't get there.
Ah, ok. So there's a catch 22 situation. Maybe us and Hull should split the cost or it'll never get sorted.
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It seems Dawson doesn't want to go. Two years left on his contract, with a possibility of a Testimonial he won't see any point in leaving. Unless they offer him compensation.
The rules are the rules. If he is due a testimonial then he must get it, whether he leaves or not.
But he is only due it if he gets the extra number of years in; leaving will mean he won't get there.
Ah, ok. So there's a catch 22 situation. Maybe us and Hull should split the cost or it'll never get sorted.
How I've read it is that Dawson will go providing he gets something extra out of it.
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According to Redknapp Caulker is going to QPR
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It seems Dawson doesn't want to go. Two years left on his contract, with a possibility of a Testimonial he won't see any point in leaving. Unless they offer him compensation.
The rules are the rules. If he is due a testimonial then he must get it, whether he leaves or not.
But he is only due it if he gets the extra number of years in; leaving will mean he won't get there.
Ah, ok. So there's a catch 22 situation. Maybe us and Hull should split the cost or it'll never get sorted.
How I've read it is that Dawson will go providing he gets something extra out of it.
Yes, as I said compensation or extra's.
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It seems Dawson doesn't want to go. Two years left on his contract, with a possibility of a Testimonial he won't see any point in leaving. Unless they offer him compensation.
The rules are the rules. If he is due a testimonial then he must get it, whether he leaves or not.
But he is only due it if he gets the extra number of years in; leaving will mean he won't get there.
Ah, ok. So there's a catch 22 situation. Maybe us and Hull should split the cost or it'll never get sorted.
How I've read it is that Dawson will go providing he gets something extra out of it.
Yes, as I said compensation or extra's.
Voice you are responding to your own posts!
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It seems Dawson doesn't want to go. Two years left on his contract, with a possibility of a Testimonial he won't see any point in leaving. Unless they offer him compensation.
The rules are the rules. If he is due a testimonial then he must get it, whether he leaves or not.
But he is only due it if he gets the extra number of years in; leaving will mean he won't get there.
Ah, ok. So there's a catch 22 situation. Maybe us and Hull should split the cost or it'll never get sorted.
How I've read it is that Dawson will go providing he gets something extra out of it.
Yes, as I said compensation or extra's.
Voice you are responding to your own posts!
Sorry; mistake. I clicked on the wrong one. I should have replied to RSS61. Easy mistake.
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It seems that Caulker will join QPR.
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He has indeed joined QPR seems the lure of playing with Rio Ferdinand was to hard to resist.