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I have just seen the SPURS team for today Defoe out, Adebayour in, and he is persisting with Dempsey, I cannot believe that he isn't starting Defoe and Adebayour together, what is wrong with him.
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To be fair City are unbeaten home and away this season. Considering we've still got an injury problem our defeat doesn't look too bad, considering. I expected a lot worse result. Nevertheless I will judge over a season, not at the start of the season. We are 6th in the league and above Ars*nal. We are 10points behind the leaders and not that far behind the rest of the top 5.
Some of the top managers, pundits and even players have said that he should be given a chance. You are certainly not a football expert - granted you are an expert at moaning - unless you are the Ars*nal manager? And even if you are I suggest you look closer to home.To be fair City are unbeaten home and away this season. Considering we've still got an injury problem our defeat doesn't look too bad, considering. I expected a lot worse result. Nevertheless I will judge over a season, not at the start of the season. We are 6th in the league and above Ars*nal. We are 10points behind the leaders and not that far behind the rest of the top 5.
Excuses excuses excuses ... we are behind Wet Spam and we have a manger who can't manage or understand how to change tactics... playing a high line against the attack Man City have is suicidal, picking Dempsey week in week out if he touched the ball more than 10 times today I'll be amazed. Taking one of two players off who was actually causing Citeh problems, Adebayor, and leaving Dempsey on .... wait till the end of the season and we will be 30+ points behind the leaders and not that far above the bottom 5
If we play like that again next week we won't be in front of Ars*nal any more ffs can't you see that we are going backwards, getting worse and losing confidence or are you just going to keep dribbling on about get behind the manager and judge him over a season crap !!!!
He ain't good enough period full stop end of argument tactically inept and can't motivate !!!!
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Some of the top managers, pundits and even players have said that he should be given a chance. You are certainly not a football expert - granted you are an expert at moaning - unless you are the Ars*nal manager? And even if you are I suggest you look closer to home.To be fair City are unbeaten home and away this season. Considering we've still got an injury problem our defeat doesn't look too bad, considering. I expected a lot worse result. Nevertheless I will judge over a season, not at the start of the season. We are 6th in the league and above Ars*nal. We are 10points behind the leaders and not that far behind the rest of the top 5.
Excuses excuses excuses ... we are behind Wet Spam and we have a manger who can't manage or understand how to change tactics... playing a high line against the attack Man City have is suicidal, picking Dempsey week in week out if he touched the ball more than 10 times today I'll be amazed. Taking one of two players off who was actually causing Citeh problems, Adebayor, and leaving Dempsey on .... wait till the end of the season and we will be 30+ points behind the leaders and not that far above the bottom 5
If we play like that again next week we won't be in front of Ars*nal any more ffs can't you see that we are going backwards, getting worse and losing confidence or are you just going to keep dribbling on about get behind the manager and judge him over a season crap !!!!
He ain't good enough period full stop end of argument tactically inept and can't motivate !!!!
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Surely if Lloris is showing a lack of confidence this is not the game to start him in is it? I would think that we need a Keeper who is FULL of CONFIDENCE and playing well would we not? or am I missing something??
Sure, he needs games. But, I'm not sure he would've saved us yesterday.Surely if Lloris is showing a lack of confidence this is not the game to start him in is it? I would think that we need a Keeper who is FULL of CONFIDENCE and playing well would we not? or am I missing something??
I mean, the longer he plays bit parts the more difficult it will be to integrate in the side. He needs regular games to retain his form I would like to see AVB reverse th roles: Lloris in league games ans Freidel in cup games,
I cannot see us win this one up there, but If we have a good defensive midfield and a wide awake defense with a on-form Lennon, Bale & Defoe, and if they have a bad day, I predict a 1-1 draw! but am I asking too much?
I would like to see Lloris start today. His performance on Thursday suggests that he is showing a lack of confidence. He needs games and this one would be a good one for him. :nods:
Once again you accuse me of something I'm not and your only retort is to give AVB a chance because some other people say the same.First of all I don’t care what other people say. I make my own judgement. And that judgement is to give him a chance. You can’t judge a person on a limited amount of time. There have been some great managers – from all different teams – that their fans wanted them out (Ferguson being one) and they were given more time and they achieved their goals.
Look at the what happened today and can you honestly say that there was anything there to give you hope, and be honest don't just blindly say I'm going to give AVB a season and I'm a gooner. Actually evaluate what happened on the pitch at the Etihad and tell me that we are improving if you can because there was very little there today to make any real Spurs fan smile and if your honest you will admit we are going backwardsThere was plenty to give me hope. Even in the Wigan game. Of course you may dismiss me as irrelevant (ok) but listen to the commentators, pundits and analysers; they are not drawing the same conclusions as you. Has all the professionals got it wrong and few boo boys got it right? In the City game we battled well and finally conceded a late goal. We were against an unbeaten team; home and away. On top of that we didn’t have our full squad. Yes, there was plenty to give me hope.
I'm not hopeful that you will be honest because so far all you've done is bury your head in the sand like alot of other people, I'm desperate for us to do well but before that happens we will need to employ another manager.....sorry but I can't see any other way AVB just isn't good enough give him 1 season give him 10 seasons the truth is he ain't gonna make it !!!!!!!You say you are not hopeful that I will be honest. Are you saying “honesty” necessitates me to be part of the boo boys and shout and scream against our team? And that is what you call “honesty”? I am a loyal Spurs supporter that believes in getting behind my team – not wishing them to lose so I can continue booing the manager – and at least giving the manager a decent chance.
Surely if Lloris is showing a lack of confidence this is not the game to start him in is it? I would think that we need a Keeper who is FULL of CONFIDENCE and playing well would we not? or am I missing something??
I mean, the longer he plays bit parts the more difficult it will be to integrate in the side. He needs regular games to retain his form I would like to see AVB reverse th roles: Lloris in league games ans Freidel in cup games,
Surely if Lloris is showing a lack of confidence this is not the game to start him in is it? I would think that we need a Keeper who is FULL of CONFIDENCE and playing well would we not? or am I missing something??
I mean, the longer he plays bit parts the more difficult it will be to integrate in the side. He needs regular games to retain his form I would like to see AVB reverse th roles: Lloris in league games ans Freidel in cup games,
So replace one of our best players this season with a new one just cos he's younger and cost more, Friedel has been immaculate this season and if it wasn't for him we would have a lot less points.
Mind you after yesterday I wouldn't be surprised seeing as Defoe scores a hat trick and has been on fire and AVB replaces him with Adebayor and keeps playing Dempsey, yeh I can see that replace your top goalscorer and keep a useless lump in the team who touched the ball about 10 times yesterday !!!!
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Surely if Lloris is showing a lack of confidence this is not the game to start him in is it? I would think that we need a Keeper who is FULL of CONFIDENCE and playing well would we not? or am I missing something??
I mean, the longer he plays bit parts the more difficult it will be to integrate in the side. He needs regular games to retain his form I would like to see AVB reverse th roles: Lloris in league games ans Freidel in cup games,
So replace one of our best players this season with a new one just cos he's younger and cost more, Friedel has been immaculate this season and if it wasn't for him we would have a lot less points.
Mind you after yesterday I wouldn't be surprised seeing as Defoe scores a hat trick and has been on fire and AVB replaces him with Adebayor and keeps playing Dempsey, yeh I can see that replace your top goalscorer and keep a useless lump in the team who touched the ball about 10 times yesterday !!!!
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You could also argue that if it wasn't for Freidel we might not have conceded that late goal. Yes, he is a good goalkeeper but he has let some goals in he shouldn't have.
By the way, Defoe is injured and even withdrew from England squad.Surely if Lloris is showing a lack of confidence this is not the game to start him in is it? I would think that we need a Keeper who is FULL of CONFIDENCE and playing well would we not? or am I missing something??
I mean, the longer he plays bit parts the more difficult it will be to integrate in the side. He needs regular games to retain his form I would like to see AVB reverse th roles: Lloris in league games ans Freidel in cup games,
So replace one of our best players this season with a new one just cos he's younger and cost more, Friedel has been immaculate this season and if it wasn't for him we would have a lot less points.
Mind you after yesterday I wouldn't be surprised seeing as Defoe scores a hat trick and has been on fire and AVB replaces him with Adebayor and keeps playing Dempsey, yeh I can see that replace your top goalscorer and keep a useless lump in the team who touched the ball about 10 times yesterday !!!!
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Unbelievable you think that last Man City goal was Friedel's fault, you could put any keeper in there for that goal and not one of them would of stopped it.... a full powered volley from point blank range.
Stop trying to justify stuff that is ridiculous Friedel didn't stand a chance the ball in by David Silva was sublimed and the finish was top class !!!!
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QuoteUnbelievable you think that last Man City goal was Friedel's fault, you could put any keeper in there for that goal and not one of them would of stopped it.... a full powered volley from point blank range.
Stop trying to justify stuff that is ridiculous Friedel didn't stand a chance the ball in by David Silva was sublimed and the finish was top class !!!!
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Can you read? I said “You could argue that if it wasn’t for Freidel we might not have conceded that late goal”. I didn’t say I “think that last Man City goal was Friedel’s fault”. There is a light difference in meaning; conjecture rather than positive.
QuoteUnbelievable you think that last Man City goal was Friedel's fault, you could put any keeper in there for that goal and not one of them would of stopped it.... a full powered volley from point blank range.
Stop trying to justify stuff that is ridiculous Friedel didn't stand a chance the ball in by David Silva was sublimed and the finish was top class !!!!
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Can you read? I said “You could argue that if it wasn’t for Freidel we might not have conceded that late goal”. I didn’t say I “think that last Man City goal was Friedel’s fault”. There is a light difference in meaning; conjecture rather than positive.
But why even come out with the statement, absolutely pointless post !!!!
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QuoteUnbelievable you think that last Man City goal was Friedel's fault, you could put any keeper in there for that goal and not one of them would of stopped it.... a full powered volley from point blank range.
Stop trying to justify stuff that is ridiculous Friedel didn't stand a chance the ball in by David Silva was sublimed and the finish was top class !!!!
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Can you read? I said “You could argue that if it wasn’t for Freidel we might not have conceded that late goal”. I didn’t say I “think that last Man City goal was Friedel’s fault”. There is a light difference in meaning; conjecture rather than positive.
But why even come out with the statement, absolutely pointless post !!!!
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You seem to miss my point. I came out with my "statement," as you say, in reference to what you had previously said.
Nothing is pointless unless the mind is too dull to pick up the points that are on show. ;) :D
QuoteUnbelievable you think that last Man City goal was Friedel's fault, you could put any keeper in there for that goal and not one of them would of stopped it.... a full powered volley from point blank range.
Stop trying to justify stuff that is ridiculous Friedel didn't stand a chance the ball in by David Silva was sublimed and the finish was top class !!!!
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Can you read? I said “You could argue that if it wasn’t for Freidel we might not have conceded that late goal”. I didn’t say I “think that last Man City goal was Friedel’s fault”. There is a light difference in meaning; conjecture rather than positive.
But why even come out with the statement, absolutely pointless post !!!!
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You seem to miss my point. I came out with my "statement," as you say, in reference to what you had previously said.
Nothing is pointless unless the mind is too dull to pick up the points that are on show. ;) :D
You don't half type some s**te !!!!
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Voice. I think you should stop feeding that guy, you will get nothing out of him but aggro.
I will continue to back AVB until we lose 10 games in a row (not 13!) around April next year and I beileve Lloris should be our No.1 keeper sooner rather than later regardless of how good Friedel has been!
playing Dempsey and not Defoe absolutely staggers me, he is just not good enough and Sunday proved that, but AVB can't see it, we were lucky to only lose 2-1. I am not saying that had Defoe played we would have won but I do think that him and Ade could have caused their defence a lot more problems, at the risk of repeating myself Dempsey does not give us anything.Defoe was not fully fit.
When did he get injured Riff before,during or after the game?I'm not his mother, I don't know. It was reported he was not fit to start and only appeared as a substitute for the last ten minutes. He was even omitted from the England squad.
Why do you have to be such a f-----g smart arse? I asked a simple question and all it required was a simple answer, you can be such a cockhead at times Riff.Of course you did. Thanks for the cockhead, though. Well put, Mr Finch.
Quote from RSS61 'AVB and Lloris were brought in as a part of a new direction for our club, one that embraces quick passing and fast tempo football.'
You are taking the P--S aren't you, please tell me that you are, cos you can't be serious, we have been playing that type of football for the past 3 yrs, but under the present coach we are playing a brand of football that is neither quick passing nor fast tempo, I cannot remember the last time that we played a less entertaining brand of Football.
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Voice. I think you should stop feeding that guy, you will get nothing out of him but aggro.
I will continue to back AVB until we lose 10 games in a row (not 13!) around April next year and I beileve Lloris should be our No.1 keeper sooner rather than later regardless of how good Friedel has been!
Nothing would have saved us Sunday, the problem we have is we do not have a playmaker, why you may ask? because Mr Levy in his wisdom has sold them, Modric, VDV and Kranjar, our replacement Dembele is injured and we have no-one else cos between AVB and Levy they couldn't get one after selling VDV, I feel that they are not selecting the right players and Sunday proved it to me, playing Dempsey and not Defoe absolutely staggers me, he is just not good enough and Sunday proved that, but AVB can't see it, we were lucky to only lose 2-1. I am not saying that had Defoe played we would have won but I do think that him and Ade could have caused their defence a lot more problems, at the risk of repeating myself Dempsey does not give us anything.
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When did he get injured Riff before,during or after the game?
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Why do you have to be such a f-----g smart arse? I asked a simple question and all it required was a simple answer, you can be such a cockhead at times Riff.
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Voice ,
Either you don't read my posts, or just write your normal accusations for the sake of it. Obviously if you were watching the game it was through those rose coloured glasses that you insist on wearing, we scored against the run of play in the first half , but the goal we got was very well taken and actually exposed Man City's defence, which is why I made my statement regarding Defoe and Ade being able to cause them problems, but obviously you chose not to read that. I have spoken to a lot of neutral supporters and to a man they all said that we were lucky to only lose 2-1, and as much as it galls me I have to agree, I think we might have had a total of 4 maybe five shots at goal, and I cannot recall Hart having to make 1 save other than the goal he let in , although I'm sure with your photographic memory you will be able to correct me!I do not think that is good enough quite frankly for a team that has its sights set on qualifying for Champions League. At the end of the game the possession percentage was 55% to 45% in favour of City probably to be expected playing away. Please do not state your normal, we have 5 injured players crap, as I keep saying we DO NOT HAVE either PLAYMAKER or the DEPTH in our SQUAD and that is a big worry, although I am sure that you will have some sort of excuse for that!!
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To be honest, our squad has been awfully thin since January when many players were allowed to go out on loan and at the same time we had many injuries (we always have). It puzzles me how our managements (Redknapp and present management) and board are yet to tackle this issue.
RSS61,
At last, someone who takes the time like myself to read posts, and then to make constructive criticism, instead of going on the attack accusing those making the criticisms of supporting other teams in order to to give themselves credence.Thank you I know that we do not necessarily agree on everything but I appreciate your support.
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Voice ,
Either you don't read my posts, or just write your normal accusations for the sake of it. Obviously if you were watching the game it was through those rose coloured glasses that you insist on wearing, we scored against the run of play in the first half , but the goal we got was very well taken and actually exposed Man City's defence, which is why I made my statement regarding Defoe and Ade being able to cause them problems, but obviously you chose not to read that. I have spoken to a lot of neutral supporters and to a man they all said that we were lucky to only lose 2-1, and as much as it galls me I have to agree, I think we might have had a total of 4 maybe five shots at goal, and I cannot recall Hart having to make 1 save other than the goal he let in , although I'm sure with your photographic memory you will be able to correct me!I do not think that is good enough quite frankly for a team that has its sights set on qualifying for Champions League. At the end of the game the possession percentage was 55% to 45% in favour of City probably to be expected playing away. Please do not state your normal, we have 5 injured players crap, as I keep saying we DO NOT HAVE either PLAYMAKER or the DEPTH in our SQUAD and that is a big worry, although I am sure that you will have some sort of excuse for that!!
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RSS61,
At last, someone who takes the time like myself to read posts, and then to make constructive criticism, instead of going on the attack accusing those making the criticisms of supporting other teams in order to to give themselves credence.Thank you I know that we do not necessarily agree on everything but I appreciate your support.
;) ;) :nods: :nods:
To be honest, our squad has been awfully thin since January when many players were allowed to go out on loan and at the same time we had many injuries (we always have). It puzzles me how our managements (Redknapp and present management) and board are yet to tackle this issue.
RSS61,
At last, someone who takes the time like myself to read posts, and then to make constructive criticism, instead of going on the attack accusing those making the criticisms of supporting other teams in order to to give themselves credence.Thank you I know that we do not necessarily agree on everything but I appreciate your support.
;) ;) :nods: :nods:
Cheers mate. Like most of us I guess, I'm just trying to be objective about what our problems are, and how best to solve them, rather than simply blaming AVB, who after all is only striving for the same things as us, with lets face it a limited bunch to work with compared to MC MU and Chelsea.
RSS61,
At last, someone who takes the time like myself to read posts, and then to make constructive criticism, instead of going on the attack accusing those making the criticisms of supporting other teams in order to to give themselves credence.Thank you I know that we do not necessarily agree on everything but I appreciate your support.
;) ;) :nods: :nods:
Cheers mate. Like most of us I guess, I'm just trying to be objective about what our problems are, and how best to solve them, rather than simply blaming AVB, who after all is only striving for the same things as us, with lets face it a limited bunch to work with compared to MC MU and Chelsea.
That is the problem; Finch is trying to blame AVB and not being objective. There is nothing wrong with being objective, but there is a problem with those that just want to attack their own team for the sake of it and are heavily influenced by the Chelsea voice.
I know they are neutral, because they are friends of mine and I spoke to them face to face, insult was here.Friends of yours!? Well that explains it all. Like always goes with like. That is even worse. Can't you think for yourself instead of relying on your friends to think for you?
VOICE,
Where in my comments regarding the Man City game have I blamed AVB for the defeat, had you have bothered to read them you would have seen that, but as usual you don't bother to read the posts, just who has written them and then go into your usual diatribe, making your usual excuses, accusations and normal bulls**t comments for the sake of it, and incidentally I do not waste my time or money going on phone-ins, I would suggest you check my location before you make such comments, but of course that would require you to use a modicom of common sense wouldn't it!
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