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Title: Chelsea v Tottenham
Post by: Chelmsford_yid on March 08, 2014, 03:45:15 PM

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Barclays Premier League - 8th March - KO 17:30  - Ground: Stamford Bridge

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Title: Re: Chelsea v Tottenham
Post by: spursjoolz on March 08, 2014, 04:18:14 PM
To realistic to predict a win, I would settle for a draw, but to be frank, this is a must win game which will define the rest of our season a we have to meet the Arse again next week and Benfica on Thursday.  Scary stuff ahead!

 :coys:
Title: Re: Chelsea v Tottenham
Post by: Chelmsford_yid on March 08, 2014, 04:41:51 PM
Lloris; Naughton, Dawson, Kaboul, Vertonghen; Bentaleb, Sandro; Walker, Lennon, Sigurdsson; Adebayor

Subs - Friedel, Fryers, Chadli, Paulinho, Townsend, Kane, Soldado.
Title: Re: Chelsea v Tottenham
Post by: Chelmsford_yid on March 08, 2014, 06:50:00 PM
First half  :up:


Second half  :tickedoff: :'(  Jan falls over, and kicks it back in to the path of Eto goal. Then two min later Chelsea get a Pen,Kaboul didn't touch the bloke and gets sent off! 2-0 game over.  :tossa:
Title: Re: Chelsea v Tottenham
Post by: Glenn R on March 08, 2014, 06:56:54 PM
Once we have a player sent off we never stood a chance.

All the top games we've had a player sent off; City, Liverpool and now Chelsea. A hat-trick.
Title: Re: Chelsea v Tottenham
Post by: Chelmsford_yid on March 08, 2014, 07:16:29 PM
3-0  :'(
Title: Re: Chelsea v Tottenham
Post by: Chelmsford_yid on March 08, 2014, 07:17:02 PM
OH FFS! what a joke! 4-0!  :tickedoff:
Title: Re: Chelsea v Tottenham
Post by: Glenn R on March 08, 2014, 07:50:57 PM
OH FFS! what a joke! 4-0!  :tickedoff:

I think you are too kind.
Title: Re: Chelsea v Tottenham
Post by: spursjoolz on March 08, 2014, 09:11:26 PM
Vertonghen already showing what he can do for Chelsea if (or when) we don't make it to the CL.  This morning he said he didn't want to re-kindle the Torres incident in our last game at the lane, so he decided to gift them a goal just to get them going. Nice! and then Kaboul goes ape s**t. Nice again!

Can't blame Sherwood for this though.  Scot free on this one, at least until Thursday!
Title: Re: Chelsea v Tottenham
Post by: dublinboy99 on March 08, 2014, 09:43:48 PM
Sherwood got it right in his post match interview.  We think we have a squad of quality?  We have so many players not up to Premier standard let alone Champions League.  Why all the fuss (other than money) about getting a top four spot when its not relevant because we have no chance of winning the Champions League?  When we did qualify under Harry, Levy wouldn't go and buy him decent strikers?  Stop all this Van Gaal crap and leave Tim where he is, he will sort out the men from the boys next year.
Title: Re: Chelsea v Tottenham
Post by: Blackjack on March 08, 2014, 10:02:00 PM
Some of those players don't deserve to wear the shirt!, the just got no balls, I hope tim stays at the end of the season as he will get rid of some of them I hope,  far to many players just give up time and time again, what happened to the days when we would go for it when a man down?, not now though as long as there getting the healthy pay check who cares A...well guess what I do.
Title: Re: Chelsea v Tottenham
Post by: Metalanimal on March 09, 2014, 10:35:59 AM
Some of those players don't deserve to wear the shirt!, the just got no balls, I hope tim stays at the end of the season as he will get rid of some of them I hope,  far to many players just give up time and time again, what happened to the days when we would go for it when a man down?, not now though as long as there getting the healthy pay check who cares A...well guess what I do.

TS has already lost the dressing room in my opinion!  As a player with self belief and wanting to win honors playing under Tim Sherwood what is there to look up to and respect, why listen to him? He has done nothing as a manager and only very little as a domestic player.  This I feel is an issue due to todays game, TS is at this stage a Championship manager at best or a No2.

It is refreshing to have a manager willing to speak out truthfully but its not going to get those players performing, that happens behind closed doors and as we can see is not working!  On todays result its apparent many players have written of their time with us and are no doubt looking to their move in the closed season at great cost to us in so many ways! 

I now feel we will finish 7th or 8th, Everton 2 games in hand if they win those will leap frog us any way and Man U are very close too, with our next 2  pending EPL games and zero points likely both Man U and Everton will be above us afterthose.

Title: Re: Chelsea v Tottenham
Post by: Chelmsford_yid on March 09, 2014, 03:34:25 PM
For tho's who didn't see/hear the post interview on SS1


Tim Sherwood slams Spurs after 4-0 humiliation by Chelsea (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8CGygbrAHK4#)
Title: Re: Chelsea v Tottenham
Post by: Metalanimal on March 09, 2014, 03:59:08 PM
Its an interesting interview if you read his body language and expressions as well as what he says.  That to me is a head coach speaking who feels he has been let down by his team but really doesnt know what he can do to turn things around, excuses already made by not being able to count on certain players.

The unfortunate thing for Tim is that he has been set up nicely to be Levys scapegoat this season in stating we didnt need any signings in Jan!

I believe he will make a very good head coach in 10 years or so but needs more experience under his belt!
Title: Re: Chelsea v Tottenham
Post by: Blackjack on March 09, 2014, 05:22:15 PM
This is playing right into Levys hands again!, he knows who he wants and I think he has already got him!, he will let tim fall on the sword to cover his future actions! unfortunatly I cant say what I thinking due to possilble young readers.!!!! :-[
Title: Re: Chelsea v Tottenham
Post by: spursjoolz on March 09, 2014, 07:40:37 PM
I feel for Sherwood and blaming him  for this mess is not the answer. Some players were absolutely appalling and should look as themselves very closely indeed. We have always had a soft belly at Spurs and yesterday's game showed every aspect of it. To that I can add blind panic and the will to give up at the first hurdlle. Sherwood needs to get harder and his criticism is well deserved  imo.
Title: Re: Chelsea v Tottenham
Post by: Paul Finch on March 10, 2014, 06:24:02 AM
      Can anyone name me Four or more players that never gave up on Sat, I can only name Three, Lloris, Sandro and Ade, you cannot include the Subs namely Paulinho and Fryers or the players that they replaced, Kaboul shouldn't have been sent off in my opinion, once he was, it all went TITS UP, after the pen, the rest should ashamed of their performance, ESPECIALLY the so-called senior players, Walker, Verthongen, and Lennon, Naughton proved to me he shouldn't be in the team, 'cos he isn't good enough, Bentaleb is too in-experienced to be blamed imo, but just interested to hear others opinions.
 :( :( :(
Title: Re: Chelsea v Tottenham
Post by: yidmafioso on March 10, 2014, 07:10:00 AM
Sherwood is a dead man walking . He knows it , levy knows it and the players know it which is why they`re not performing for him .For me its not just the players and the coach that are wrong . Levy MUST be replaced as the top man . Far too controlling and interfering and in my opinion very niave in footballing matters .
Title: Re: Chelsea v Tottenham
Post by: Metalanimal on March 10, 2014, 07:17:45 AM
Sherwood is a dead man walking . He knows it , levy knows it and the players know it which is why they`re not performing for him .For me its not just the players and the coach that are wrong . Levy MUST be replaced as the top man . Far too controlling and interfering and in my opinion very niave in footballing matters .

Spot on  :up:
Title: Re: Chelsea v Tottenham
Post by: RSS61 on March 10, 2014, 08:00:03 AM
Sherwood is a dead man walking . He knows it , levy knows it and the players know it which is why they`re not performing for him .For me its not just the players and the coach that are wrong . Levy MUST be replaced as the top man . Far too controlling and interfering and in my opinion very niave in footballing matters .

Spot on  :up:

This short statement is exactly to the point.
Title: Re: Chelsea v Tottenham
Post by: Glenn R on March 10, 2014, 04:28:30 PM
Sherwood is a dead man walking . He knows it , levy knows it and the players know it which is why they`re not performing for him .For me its not just the players and the coach that are wrong . Levy MUST be replaced as the top man . Far too controlling and interfering and in my opinion very niave in footballing matters .

Whether Sherwood is a dead man or not he will be at this club, managing Spurs until the end of the season. Sherwood has said we are not good enough to be in the top 4 and I do question whether we are good enough to get a Europa spot either. We've got Everton and United breathing down our neck.

I was no fan of Harry's, but since sacking him we've sacked another and this season it looks like we will finish between 5th and 7th. That isn't progression but deterioration. And that deterioration has cost us over £100 million. That must be some sort of record. The only good thing we can say about this season is that we won’t get relegated.
Title: Re: Chelsea v Tottenham
Post by: spursjoolz on March 10, 2014, 07:08:39 PM
Sherwood is a dead man walking . He knows it , levy knows it and the players know it which is why they`re not performing for him .For me its not just the players and the coach that are wrong . Levy MUST be replaced as the top man . Far too controlling and interfering and in my opinion very niave in footballing matters .

Whether Sherwood is a dead man or not he will be at this club, managing Spurs until the end of the season. Sherwood has said we are not good enough to be in the top 4 and I do question whether we are good enough to get a Europa spot either. We've got Everton and United breathing down our neck.

I was no fan of Harry's, but since sacking him we've sacked another and this season it looks like we will finish
between 5th and 7th. That isn't progression but deterioration. And that deterioration has cost us over £100 million. That must be some sort of record. The only good thing we can say about this season is that we won’t get relegated.



We should never  have sold Bale. Levy should have paid him what he was worth and had he done that, it would have attracted better players. I was quite excited when the new players came, but only one or 2 of them have proved to be good enough!
Title: Re: Chelsea v Tottenham
Post by: Glenn R on March 10, 2014, 07:12:52 PM
Sherwood is a dead man walking . He knows it , levy knows it and the players know it which is why they`re not performing for him .For me its not just the players and the coach that are wrong . Levy MUST be replaced as the top man . Far too controlling and interfering and in my opinion very niave in footballing matters .

Whether Sherwood is a dead man or not he will be at this club, managing Spurs until the end of the season. Sherwood has said we are not good enough to be in the top 4 and I do question whether we are good enough to get a Europa spot either. We've got Everton and United breathing down our neck.

I was no fan of Harry's, but since sacking him we've sacked another and this season it looks like we will finish
between 5th and 7th. That isn't progression but deterioration. And that deterioration has cost us over £100 million. That must be some sort of record. The only good thing we can say about this season is that we won’t get relegated.



We should never  have sold Bale. Levy should have paid him what he was worth and had he done that, it would have attracted better players. I was quite excited when the new players came, but only one or 2 of them have proved to be good enough!

I can't argue with that. However, I bet Bale was glad he had left. Terry Venables said we are a selling club and at the moment I can't argue with that.
Title: Re: Chelsea v Tottenham
Post by: Chelmsford_yid on March 11, 2014, 05:21:23 AM
If you guys are unaware the club are to appeal over Kaboul's red card.
Title: Re: Chelsea v Tottenham
Post by: yidmafioso on March 11, 2014, 06:56:12 AM
Spurs as a club has been badly run for years .The richardson family who owned the club for donkeys years were nototriously tight with their money , irving scholar was a schiester who thought he was businessman of the year , sugar wouldn`t spend any money and levy seems happy to sell big players for big money and buy average replacements for huge fees .We`re a shambles from top to bottom .
Title: Re: Chelsea v Tottenham
Post by: Paul Finch on March 11, 2014, 08:34:20 AM
       Guys,
              I am not a big fan of Levy, but don't be so naïve as to think that had Levy had offered Bale twice the amount that RM offered he would have stayed, maybe, just maybe if we had made CL he might have stayed, but even that is doubtful, imo, he wanted to display his undoubted skills on the BIG STAGE, and CL is to him is the biggest stage that he can play on. :nods: :nods: :nods: :nods: :nods:
Title: Re: Chelsea v Tottenham
Post by: RSS61 on March 11, 2014, 08:57:24 AM
       Guys,
              I am not a big fan of Levy, but don't be so naïve as to think that had Levy had offered Bale twice the amount that RM offered he would have stayed, maybe, just maybe if we had made CL he might have stayed, but even that is doubtful, imo, he wanted to display his undoubted skills on the BIG STAGE, and CL is to him is the biggest stage that he can play on. :nods: :nods: :nods: :nods: :nods:

I think we all have to accept that once Real Madrid came in for Bale he was always going to go. Lets face it there was no way whatsoever of stopping him, and who could blame him ?? Look at his life style...playing in the sun, with players like Ronaldo etc...
Much as I dislike and mistrust Levy, Bale is one thing I simply cannot pin on him. In fact he did extremely well to get 86 million for him. His biggest error was in wasting that money, and some on a load of second rate half chance players, and his errors in managerial appointments.
Title: Re: Chelsea v Tottenham
Post by: Blackjack on March 11, 2014, 03:54:05 PM
Il bring this back to the topic! :) , The only mistake Tim made for me was playing kaboul!, sure he was dissmissed wrongly but had he not stopped to do his shoe laces up while the ball was still in play then when Jan slipped and did the back pass he would have been right in the center to clear the danger!, believe it or not this is the second time he has done this and we have conceded a goal!, this is a unforgivable error! it was one of many that Spurs keep doing, Teams dont need to beat us anymore because they know that our back four and midfield have no unity!, no idea how to link up and work together!. Have you not noticed that when we have the ball and play it forward nearly all our passes are behind the man so they have to check back and go back towards our goal!, if the ball was played infront of the man the player runs onto it a drives forward!, the defencive way that Spurs now play is a gold mine to our opposing teams :-[ . Look at Chelsea sure they did not play well and we contained them brilliantly first half and was looking to exploit the space behind them!, Morinho the master he  recognised this and brought on Osca to link up there midfield!, we should then have probabley brought on Dembelle to track him as Sandro was on a booking!, neverless we then started pumping the ball long from the back which is pointless playing 1 up front!, and ofcourse started playing across the back four! OUR achilles heal at the moment!, Chelsea pushed up and the rest we know!!, this is a reacurring pattern that has to be addressed quickly!. our so called players think they are better than they are!, but what annoys me the most is... how the everybody relies far to much on Loris!, that to me tells the picture!, we have no idea going forward as the midfield is static and so well martialled!, All Tim has to do is tell Lennon, Chadli or siggursson to stay out wide!, assign another player to support them on either side and bomb forward and bang those crosses in!!!, as it stands any really good team will as they already are doing will pass around us!. >:( >:( >:( .
Title: Re: Chelsea v Tottenham
Post by: Glenn R on March 11, 2014, 04:31:56 PM
       Guys,
              I am not a big fan of Levy, but don't be so naïve as to think that had Levy had offered Bale twice the amount that RM offered he would have stayed, maybe, just maybe if we had made CL he might have stayed, but even that is doubtful, imo, he wanted to display his undoubted skills on the BIG STAGE, and CL is to him is the biggest stage that he can play on. :nods: :nods: :nods: :nods: :nods:

Bale and Modric would have stayed if Levy could show that we could compete on equal terms with the top 4 and clubs like Real Madrid. He couldn't and left. And looking how he is doing and how we are doing he made the right decision.
Title: Re: Chelsea v Tottenham
Post by: Chelmsford_yid on March 12, 2014, 04:24:02 AM
Kaboul's Red Card has been withdrawn.  :up:



Title: Re: Chelsea v Tottenham
Post by: Blackjack on March 12, 2014, 07:50:27 AM
Kaboul's Red Card has been withdrawn.  :up:





Rightl so, now I hope he also learns a valuable lesson on when to tie up his shoe laces now! :'(
Title: Re: Chelsea v Tottenham
Post by: Glenn R on March 12, 2014, 04:31:07 PM
Kaboul's Red Card has been withdrawn.  :up:





Rightl so, now I hope he also learns a valuable lesson on when to tie up his shoe laces now! :'(

This is the second time we've had a player wrongly sent off.
Title: Re: Chelsea v Tottenham
Post by: RSS61 on March 13, 2014, 08:04:23 AM
Kaboul's Red Card has been withdrawn.  :up:





Rightl so, now I hope he also learns a valuable lesson on when to tie up his shoe laces now! :'(

This is the second time we've had a player wrongly sent off.

This is true, and is unfortunately part of football. What is of a bigger concern to me is the way our heads immediately went down from thereafter. It once again highlights the fact that we do not have a captain capable of lifting all the players in times of hardship.
We are a good side when things are going our way it seems. We need to find a leader somewhere.
Title: Re: Chelsea v Tottenham
Post by: Glenn R on March 13, 2014, 12:12:55 PM
Kaboul's Red Card has been withdrawn.  :up:





Rightl so, now I hope he also learns a valuable lesson on when to tie up his shoe laces now! :'(

This is the second time we've had a player wrongly sent off.

This is true, and is unfortunately part of football. What is of a bigger concern to me is the way our heads immediately went down from thereafter. It once again highlights the fact that we do not have a captain capable of lifting all the players in times of hardship.
We are a good side when things are going our way it seems. We need to find a leader somewhere.

Yes. I see a lot of players going this season, with some new players coming in. And probably a new captain next season.