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Title: Tottenham v Wigan
Post by: Biggs on November 03, 2012, 12:21:42 PM
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Title: Re: Tottenham v Wigan
Post by: Yiddite on November 03, 2012, 02:55:17 PM
Hope we start with  both Defoe and Adebayor .
Title: Re: Tottenham v Wigan
Post by: Paul Finch on November 03, 2012, 05:28:34 PM
Again we started with Defoe and Dempsey and again it didn't work, when will he realise that Dempsey is not a FWD, at best he should be on the BENCH, for GODS SAKE when will you swallow your pride and admit you are wrong and start with Defoe and Adebayour you Portugese Muppet!!!!!!!!!!!!! :( :( :( :( :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[
Title: Re: Tottenham v Wigan
Post by: ugs on November 03, 2012, 09:00:44 PM
Again we started with Defoe and Dempsey and again it didn't work, when will he realise that Dempsey is not a FWD, at best he should be on the BENCH, for GODS SAKE when will you swallow your pride and admit you are wrong and start with Defoe and Adebayour you Portugese Muppet!!!!!!!!!!!!! :( :( :( :( :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[

Here here well said that man, and also maybe you could admit that your not a tactical genius seeing as you couldn't suss out Wigan today..... you portugese Numpty !!!!!!
(At least 'Arry would of got the side to run around and score some goals !!!..... 'Arry's tactics were never rocket science but boy they were enteraining and reasonably successful !!!!)
Title: Re: Tottenham v Wigan
Post by: Glenn R on November 04, 2012, 05:48:09 PM
All top clubs get beaten by lower clubs occasionally. Even though Spurs had 5 players missing I thought they battled well and were unlucky not to score. It is too early to criticise AVB. I will give my opinion of him at the end of the season. Hopefully we will get our injured players back soon.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Wigan
Post by: pukekohespur on November 04, 2012, 06:14:19 PM
No we did not battle well...sorry. That was the most flaccid, impotent performance I have seen from Spurs in 40 years.
There was nothing positive to be gleaned from such a poor game. Our tactics seem to be that every time we didn't get the ball or a pass went astray to stand there waving our arms about as if it was someone else s fault.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Wigan
Post by: ugs on November 04, 2012, 07:09:29 PM
All top clubs get beaten by lower clubs occasionally. Even though Spurs had 5 players missing I thought they battled well and were unlucky not to score. It is too early to criticise AVB. I will give my opinion of him at the end of the season. Hopefully we will get our injured players back soon.

I don't know what game you watched but it sure as hell wasn't the same one as me, take those AVB tinted glasses off and join the rest of us in the real world !!!!!
 
 8D
Title: Re: Tottenham v Wigan
Post by: spursjoolz on November 04, 2012, 07:29:15 PM
Yep, one lost game and the "doom and gloomers" are back. Funny how quiet they are when we win! Sados!
Title: Re: Tottenham v Wigan
Post by: Glenn R on November 04, 2012, 08:12:06 PM
All top clubs get beaten by lower clubs occasionally. Even though Spurs had 5 players missing I thought they battled well and were unlucky not to score. It is too early to criticise AVB. I will give my opinion of him at the end of the season. Hopefully we will get our injured players back soon.

I don't know what game you watched but it sure as hell wasn't the same one as me, take those AVB tinted glasses off and join the rest of us in the real world !!!!!
 
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Get real! This is his first season. I'll judge him at the end of the season. I suggest you open your eyes and try to understand a bit more about how football works.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Wigan
Post by: Paul Finch on November 05, 2012, 10:45:22 AM
VOICE,
 Whilst I agree that this is his first season in charge at THFC, I was prepared to give him a chance,whilst not necessarily agreeing with his appointment, and I think 14 or 15 games is a fair chance, after watching Saturdays selections and subsequent performance and substitutions, I am now of the opinion that he is not prepared to admit that he has made mistakes with his selection decisions,and until he does we are in serious danger of not only failing to qualify for the CL but also failing to qualify for the Europa League. Now I find that an insult after the last 3 yrs.Yes we all know Harry made mistakes, but I for one after supporting SPURS for nearly 60 yrs find it very difficult to swallow and accept the crap that we are turning out under AVB.   :nope: :nope: :nope:
Title: Re: Tottenham v Wigan
Post by: Paul Finch on November 05, 2012, 10:51:22 AM
Incidentally, I have supported this club through the good times and the bad times, so I am not a fairweather supporter. :( :(   :nods: :nods:
Title: Re: Tottenham v Wigan
Post by: RSS61 on November 05, 2012, 12:54:54 PM
VOICE,
 Whilst I agree that this is his first season in charge at THFC, I was prepared to give him a chance,whilst not necessarily agreeing with his appointment, and I think 14 or 15 games is a fair chance, after watching Saturdays selections and subsequent performance and substitutions, I am now of the opinion that he is not prepared to admit that he has made mistakes with his selection decisions,and until he does we are in serious danger of not only failing to qualify for the CL but also failing to qualify for the Europa League. Now I find that an insult after the last 3 yrs.Yes we all know Harry made mistakes, but I for one after supporting SPURS for nearly 60 yrs find it very difficult to swallow and accept the crap that we are turning out under AVB.   :nope: :nope: :nope:

Unfortunately I think the reason we are getting nowhere is because we don't have the players to play his system. Ultimately we have to see who is brought in in January, and whether that works. Otherwise AVB's days will be numbered.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Wigan
Post by: Glenn R on November 05, 2012, 05:49:54 PM
VOICE,
 Whilst I agree that this is his first season in charge at THFC, I was prepared to give him a chance,whilst not necessarily agreeing with his appointment, and I think 14 or 15 games is a fair chance, after watching Saturdays selections and subsequent performance and substitutions, I am now of the opinion that he is not prepared to admit that he has made mistakes with his selection decisions,and until he does we are in serious danger of not only failing to qualify for the CL but also failing to qualify for the Europa League. Now I find that an insult after the last 3 yrs.Yes we all know Harry made mistakes, but I for one after supporting SPURS for nearly 60 yrs find it very difficult to swallow and accept the crap that we are turning out under AVB.   :nope: :nope: :nope:

AVB's selection was forced upon him. If you are talking about Defoe; I think is overrated.

The trouble with admitting mistakes on TV it gets twisted around and the boo boys will just use it against him. I wouldn't admit on national TV that I had made a mistake.

All supporters should give him to the end of the season before commenting.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Wigan
Post by: Glenn R on November 05, 2012, 05:51:10 PM
Incidentally, I have supported this club through the good times and the bad times, so I am not a fairweather supporter. :( :(   :nods: :nods:

As I have and I have seen some crap at White Hart lane.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Wigan
Post by: Glenn R on November 05, 2012, 05:52:45 PM
VOICE,
 Whilst I agree that this is his first season in charge at THFC, I was prepared to give him a chance,whilst not necessarily agreeing with his appointment, and I think 14 or 15 games is a fair chance, after watching Saturdays selections and subsequent performance and substitutions, I am now of the opinion that he is not prepared to admit that he has made mistakes with his selection decisions,and until he does we are in serious danger of not only failing to qualify for the CL but also failing to qualify for the Europa League. Now I find that an insult after the last 3 yrs.Yes we all know Harry made mistakes, but I for one after supporting SPURS for nearly 60 yrs find it very difficult to swallow and accept the crap that we are turning out under AVB.   :nope: :nope: :nope:

Unfortunately I think the reason we are getting nowhere is because we don't have the players to play his system. Ultimately we have to see who is brought in in January, and whether that works. Otherwise AVB's days will be numbered.

I agree that we need some more players; but I don't think his days are numbered at the moment. I think he will be given another season; providing we are not fighting relegation at the end of the season.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Wigan
Post by: Paul Finch on November 06, 2012, 12:34:21 AM
He had the opportunity to buy players in the last transfer window, whether it was his or Levy's fault that he didn't get the players he wanted who knows, there were some good buys and some ordinary ones, but I think January might be TOO late to resurrect our season. I hope that I am wrong.

 :nods: :nods: :nods:
Title: Re: Tottenham v Wigan
Post by: Paul Finch on November 06, 2012, 12:41:50 AM
I do not think he has to admit on National TV that he is wrong, you can also admit your mistakes by making the right selections or substitutions. Whether he does this remains to be seen. I have my doubts because as we saw at Chelski he is very stubborn man, which will prove to be to our detriment!!


 ::) ::) :nods: :nods:
Title: Re: Tottenham v Wigan
Post by: Glenn R on November 06, 2012, 09:54:41 AM
I think people love being cynical; we are not as bad as some spurs fans would wish us to be (so that they can strengthen their hated of our manager).

Remember people were shouting for Alex to resign from United; where would they have been if the board did so?
Title: Re: Tottenham v Wigan
Post by: ugs on November 06, 2012, 10:09:33 AM
VOICE,
Whilst I agree that this is his first season in charge at THFC, I was prepared to give him a chance,whilst not necessarily agreeing with his appointment, and I think 14 or 15 games is a fair chance, after watching Saturdays selections and subsequent performance and substitutions, I am now of the opinion that he is not prepared to admit that he has made mistakes with his selection decisions,and until he does we are in serious danger of not only failing to qualify for the CL but also failing to qualify for the Europa League. Now I find that an insult after the last 3 yrs.Yes we all know Harry made mistakes, but I for one after supporting SPURS for nearly 60 yrs find it very difficult to swallow and accept the crap that we are turning out under AVB.   :nope: :nope: :nope:

Unfortunately I think the reason we are getting nowhere is because we don't have the players to play his system. Ultimately we have to see who is brought in in January, and whether that works. Otherwise AVB's days will be numbered.

I agree that we need some more players; but I don't think his days are numbered at the moment. I think he will be given another season; providing we are not fighting relegation at the end of the season.

We had a squad that finish 4th, 5th then 4th again, AVB dismantled it and now we have a squad that will be lucky to stay top 8 .... and this is a good thing, this is a reason to give the man another season. If I remember rightly he did the same at Chelski and look where that got him, take off your AVB tinted glasses and look at the real picture, we have not improved nor will we under AVB !!!!!!!
 
 :nods:
Title: Re: Tottenham v Wigan
Post by: Glenn R on November 06, 2012, 10:32:51 AM
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We had a squad that finish 4th, 5th then 4th again, AVB dismantled it and now we have a squad that will be lucky to stay top 8 ....
Did he dismantle it? He had no say in selling Modric; if I remember rightly it was Modric who wanted to go and AVB wanted to keep him. Some of the players he wanted he couldn’t get. On top of that we’ve got 5 players out.

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and this is a good thing, this is a reason to give the man another season. If I remember rightly he did the same at Chelski and look where that got him, take off your AVB tinted glasses and look at the real picture, we have not improved nor will we under AVB !!!!!!![/font][/color]

Did he? You could argue that the fruits of his planning helped capture the European cup; with a manager that worked with AVB. Good enough reason why he shouldn’t have been sacked when he was.
Please tell me this again at the end of the season; then I will apologise for my “AVB tinted glasses”. Whether I am right or wrong we should at least give him some time.

By the way; Harry believes that Spurs will finish in the top 4.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Wigan
Post by: Paul Finch on November 08, 2012, 07:54:30 AM
Voice,
 AVB is either your love child, or you are Daniel Levy in disguise, the way that you defend AVB is extraordinary, you are obviously on Levy's payroll, I was prepared to give him a chance as I said previously, but and I repeat but, he isn't doing anything to endear himself to the Tottenham Faithful as you would have seen Sat when he substituted Defoe, it is quite obvious that the man does not have a clue. How can you defend him when he is making some very very strange decisions that are definitely not helping his popularity.Before you say it I know you don't rate Defoe but he is the in form striker, Dempsey on the other hand looks out of his depth, he is just not good enough.

 AND FOR THE RECORD I DON"T GIVE A S---E whether AVB helped Chelsea Win the CL cos if he did thats another reason for me to dislike him, cos Chelsea are the reason we aren't in it or had you conveniently forgotten that small point.

 ??? ??? ???


Title: Re: Tottenham v Wigan
Post by: RSS61 on November 08, 2012, 08:21:53 AM
Voice, AVB is either your love child, or you are Daniel Levy in disguise, the way that you defend AVB is extraordinary, you are obviously on Levy's payroll, I was prepared to give him a chance as I said previously, but and I repeat but, he isn't doing anything to endear himself to the Tottenham Faithful as you would have seen Sat when he substituted Defoe, it is quite obvious that the man does not have a clue. How can you defend him when he is making some very very strange decisions that are definitely not helping his popularity.Before you say it I know you don't rate Defoe but he is the in form striker, Dempsey on the other hand looks out of his depth, he is just not good enough. AND FOR THE RECORD I DON"T GIVE A S---E whether AVB helped Chelsea Win the CL cos if he did thats another reason for me to dislike him, cos Chelsea are the reason we aren't in it or had you conveniently forgotten that small point. ??? ??? ???
Title: Re: Tottenham v Wigan
Post by: RSS61 on November 08, 2012, 08:23:01 AM
If Defoe is our "on form striker" then we are in trouble.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Wigan
Post by: Paul Finch on November 08, 2012, 09:17:08 AM
If Defoe is our "on form striker" then we are in trouble.


Can you name another player in our Squad who has scored more Premier League Goals this season than Defoe, if you cant then I think that makes him OUR IN-FORM STRIKER does it not???


Defoe 5 goals,
 Bale 3 goals   


I rest my case




 ??? ??? ???
Title: Re: Tottenham v Wigan
Post by: RSS61 on November 09, 2012, 07:45:23 AM
If Defoe is our "on form striker" then we are in trouble.


Can you name another player in our Squad who has scored more Premier League Goals this season than Defoe, if you cant then I think that makes him OUR IN-FORM STRIKER does it not???


Defoe 5 goals,
 Bale 3 goals   


I rest my case




 ??? ??? ???

After last night, I must eat humble lie !!! 3 outstanding finishes, with great build up work from Bale, Adebayor, Carrol and Lennon. Would like to see Defoe and Adebayor start more often, especially at home.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Wigan
Post by: RSS61 on November 09, 2012, 07:46:55 AM
If Defoe is our "on form striker" then we are in trouble.


Can you name another player in our Squad who has scored more Premier League Goals this season than Defoe, if you cant then I think that makes him OUR IN-FORM STRIKER does it not???


Defoe 5 goals,
 Bale 3 goals   


I rest my case




 ??? ??? ???

After last night, I must eat humble lie !!! 3 outstanding finishes, with great build up work from Bale, Adebayor, Carrol and Lennon. Would like to see Defoe and Adebayor start more often, especially at home.

Thats humble pie !!
Title: Re: Tottenham v Wigan
Post by: Paul Finch on November 09, 2012, 08:10:51 AM
Apology accepted, I have been advocating that AVB should be playing both Defoe and Adebayor for most of the season, maybe just maybe he will start them both against Man City this week but I will be very surprised if he does, he is just as likely to play Dempsey instead of one of them.!!


 :nods: :nods: :nods:
Title: Re: Tottenham v Wigan
Post by: Paul Finch on November 09, 2012, 08:21:31 AM
Obviously Voice has lost his or is Defoe your hero now??


 :nods: :nods: :nods:
Title: Re: Tottenham v Wigan
Post by: RiffHard on November 09, 2012, 09:54:40 AM
If Defoe is our "on form striker" then we are in trouble.


Can you name another player in our Squad who has scored more Premier League Goals this season than Defoe, if you cant then I think that makes him OUR IN-FORM STRIKER does it not???


Defoe 5 goals,
 Bale 3 goals   


I rest my case




 ??? ??? ???

After last night, I must eat humble lie !!! 3 outstanding finishes, with great build up work from Bale, Adebayor, Carrol and Lennon. Would like to see Defoe and Adebayor start more often, especially at home.

Thats humble pie !!
Prepare to put mustard on those words, for you will soon be consuming them along with this slice of humble pie that comes direct from the oven of shame, set at gas mark egg on your face.

(from The IT Crowd)


 :grin:
Title: Re: Tottenham v Wigan
Post by: Paul Finch on November 09, 2012, 11:51:06 AM
Again you make little or NO sense Riff


 :nods: :nods: :nods:
Title: Re: Tottenham v Wigan
Post by: RiffHard on November 09, 2012, 12:07:35 PM
Again you make little or NO sense Riff


 :nods: :nods: :nods:
Again you are taking things too seriously, Mr Finch.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Wigan
Post by: Paul Finch on November 09, 2012, 12:18:49 PM
If you are going to comment at least make some sense Riff, it isn't that hard you know.


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Title: Re: Tottenham v Wigan
Post by: RiffHard on November 09, 2012, 01:15:40 PM
If you are going to comment at least make some sense Riff, it isn't that hard you know.


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Come on, man, what is your problem? I just posted a quote. Sorry, man!
Title: Re: Tottenham v Wigan
Post by: Glenn R on November 09, 2012, 05:06:25 PM
Voice,
 AVB is either your love child, or you are Daniel Levy in disguise, the way that you defend AVB is extraordinary, you are obviously on Levy's payroll, I was prepared to give him a chance as I said previously, but and I repeat but, he isn't doing anything to endear himself to the Tottenham Faithful as you would have seen Sat when he substituted Defoe, it is quite obvious that the man does not have a clue. How can you defend him when he is making some very very strange decisions that are definitely not helping his popularity.Before you say it I know you don't rate Defoe but he is the in form striker, Dempsey on the other hand looks out of his depth, he is just not good enough.
Defended him? I said he should be given a chance. I also had said that if he should fail then I would also be shouting along with you for him to be removed.
What do you mean you were prepared to give him a chance? We’ve only played a limited amount of games. Your threshold is very low.
You say I am either his love child, or Daniel Levy in disguise; rather be these things than an Ars*nal supporter in disguise of a Tottenham supporter; and I draw this conclusion with your negativity towards Spurs and not giving AVB a proper chance…. Or have I got it wrong and you are actually a Chelsea fan in disguise; which would explain a lot. You hostility towards Spurs.

 
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AND FOR THE RECORD I DON"T GIVE A S---E whether AVB helped Chelsea Win the CL cos if he did thats another reason for me to dislike him, cos Chelsea are the reason we aren't in it or had you conveniently forgotten that small point.

 ??? ??? ???
No; we are not in it, not because of Chelsea, but because of the amount of games Harry lost while hoping he got the England job.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Wigan
Post by: Paul Finch on November 09, 2012, 10:47:44 PM
HOW DARE YOU ACCUSE ME OF BEING A ARSE--- OR CHELSKI supporter in disguise. I have been supporting Spurs since 1955 I saw some of the old push & run team and was privileged to see Billy Nick play along with some of the other greats.Unlike you I am not prepared to accept mediocrity, which is what we are dishing up under AVB, especially after the way we were playing under Harry, whilst I was shocked that Harry was sacked, obviously there was an underlying reason, but to replace him with someone who is unproven and a bad man manager staggers me, and he has done nothing to encourage me to change my mind, his performance against Wigan was pitiful, which caused me to start this.Just because you don't agree does not entitle you to make such accusations or is that your pathetic way of trying to get your point across.

 :nods: :nods: :nods:
Title: Re: Tottenham v Wigan
Post by: ugs on November 10, 2012, 08:01:59 PM
HOW DARE YOU ACCUSE ME OF BEING A ARSE--- OR CHELSKI supporter in disguise. I have been supporting Spurs since 1955 I saw some of the old push & run team and was privileged to see Billy Nick play along with some of the other greats.Unlike you I am not prepared to accept mediocrity, which is what we are dishing up under AVB, especially after the way we were playing under Harry, whilst I was shocked that Harry was sacked, obviously there was an underlying reason, but to replace him with someone who is unproven and a bad man manager staggers me, and he has done nothing to encourage me to change my mind, his performance against Wigan was pitiful, which caused me to start this.Just because you don't agree does not entitle you to make such accusations or is that your pathetic way of trying to get your point across.

 :nods: :nods: :nods:

Here here Mr Finch totally agree with your point.... apparently I'm an Woolwich Wanderers fan because I also don't like AVB.
Voice resorts to insulting fellow supporters because his arguments have no substance they all basically require us to give AVB all season to completely cock things up before we are allowed to criticise him in any way shape or form.
Sorry voice you are misjudging some very loyal Spurs fans who care passionately about their club !!!!!
 
 :nods:
Title: Re: Tottenham v Wigan
Post by: Glenn R on November 11, 2012, 05:13:22 PM
HOW DARE YOU ACCUSE ME OF BEING A ARSE--- OR CHELSKI supporter in disguise. I have been supporting Spurs since 1955 I saw some of the old push & run team and was privileged to see Billy Nick play along with some of the other greats.Unlike you I am not prepared to accept mediocrity, which is what we are dishing up under AVB, especially after the way we were playing under Harry, whilst I was shocked that Harry was sacked, obviously there was an underlying reason, but to replace him with someone who is unproven and a bad man manager staggers me, and he has done nothing to encourage me to change my mind, his performance against Wigan was pitiful, which caused me to start this.Just because you don't agree does not entitle you to make such accusations or is that your pathetic way of trying to get your point across.

 :nods: :nods: :nods:

Then  support the team and stop moaning. Judge their performance at the end of the season or if we are fighting relegation. I might be criticising like you by the end of the season. But that time isn't here yet.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Wigan
Post by: Glenn R on November 11, 2012, 05:16:13 PM
HOW DARE YOU ACCUSE ME OF BEING A ARSE--- OR CHELSKI supporter in disguise. I have been supporting Spurs since 1955 I saw some of the old push & run team and was privileged to see Billy Nick play along with some of the other greats.Unlike you I am not prepared to accept mediocrity, which is what we are dishing up under AVB, especially after the way we were playing under Harry, whilst I was shocked that Harry was sacked, obviously there was an underlying reason, but to replace him with someone who is unproven and a bad man manager staggers me, and he has done nothing to encourage me to change my mind, his performance against Wigan was pitiful, which caused me to start this.Just because you don't agree does not entitle you to make such accusations or is that your pathetic way of trying to get your point across.

 :nods: :nods: :nods:

Here here Mr Finch totally agree with your point.... apparently I'm an Woolwich Wanderers fan because I also don't like AVB.
Voice resorts to insulting fellow supporters because his arguments have no substance they all basically require us to give AVB all season to completely cock things up before we are allowed to criticise him in any way shape or form.
Sorry voice you are misjudging some very loyal Spurs fans who care passionately about their club !!!!!
 
 :nods:

I resort to giving Spurs a chance. There are Spurs moaners who will just moan no matter what they do. You say you are Spurs supporters then get behind the team. There is plenty of time at the end of the season to voice your concerns or appreciation.
Title: Re: Tottenham v Wigan
Post by: spursjoolz on November 11, 2012, 08:09:29 PM
Well said Voice! We love our club ans we will support our manager and players  :nods: