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Title: Lazio v Tottenham
Post by: Biggs on November 21, 2012, 05:51:14 PM
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Title: Re: Lazio v Tottenham
Post by: yidmafioso on November 21, 2012, 07:22:20 PM
I fancy us to bounce back from saturdays debacle to win 2-1 .I heard dembeles fit at last  :up:
Title: Re: Lazio v Tottenham
Post by: Glenn R on November 21, 2012, 07:58:21 PM
I think it will be tricky (with so many out) but I think we can pull of a win.
Title: Re: Lazio v Tottenham
Post by: Yiddite on November 21, 2012, 08:08:54 PM
Dembele travelled but AVB says he is unlikely to play.
Friedel is  left in London so Lloris will be in goal.
Title: Re: Lazio v Tottenham
Post by: Glenn R on November 21, 2012, 08:42:06 PM
Quote from: Yiddite on November 21, 2012, 08:08:54 PM
Dembele travelled but AVB says he is unlikely to play.
Friedel is  left in London so Lloris will be in goal.

Some times managers say that as a ploy; i.e. Dembele not playing and then play him.
Title: Re: Lazio v Tottenham
Post by: Paul Finch on November 22, 2012, 07:08:34 AM
I believe that Adebayour is eligible to play in this game, otherwise why would he have travelled to Italy, he is in the photos of the team training in the Stadium.
 
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Title: Re: Lazio v Tottenham
Post by: RiffHard on November 22, 2012, 08:15:18 AM
Quote from: Paul Finch on November 22, 2012, 07:08:34 AM
I believe that Adebayour is eligible to play in this game, otherwise why would he have travelled to Italy, he is in the photos of the team training in the Stadium.
Sure he is, he hasn't been banned from European games. But with Lloris starting does it mean that Friedel will start in our next league game?
Title: Re: Lazio v Tottenham
Post by: Paul Finch on November 22, 2012, 10:05:54 AM
Probably not, there is no doubt that Lloris is a good keeper, and I realise that he is the future, but I just wonder whether he is ready for the rigors of the PL just yet, I think he needs to be broken in very gently, some of the things that he has done in the games that he has played have highlighted to me that as good a keeper that he is, when it comes to the PL, it is just a little bit faster than he is used to, and that shows, also the quality of the players that he is playing against are better than he is used to playing against week-in week-out.
Title: Re: Lazio v Tottenham
Post by: Yiddite on November 22, 2012, 10:24:25 AM
Latest rumour on Friedel is that he could be going out on loan to Blackburn
until January when the move would become permanent  !!!!
Title: Re: Lazio v Tottenham
Post by: RiffHard on November 22, 2012, 10:26:43 AM
Quote from: Yiddite on November 22, 2012, 10:24:25 AM
Latest rumour on Friedel is that he could be going out on loan to Blackburn
until January when the move would become permanent  !!!!
What? Where did this come from? Any sources?
Title: Re: Lazio v Tottenham
Post by: Yiddite on November 22, 2012, 10:39:36 AM
Daily Mail online for Friedel's rumour.


What a shocker!!!
Title: Re: Lazio v Tottenham
Post by: RiffHard on November 22, 2012, 11:46:07 AM
Quote from: Yiddite on November 22, 2012, 10:39:36 AM
Daily Mail online for Friedel's rumour.

What a shocker!!!
I don't believe it. He wouldn't get guaranteed first team football there as they have Robinson. And as it seems, Villas-Boas doesn't intend to give Gomes a game, and a club needs three keepers.
Title: Re: Lazio v Tottenham
Post by: RSS61 on November 22, 2012, 12:55:04 PM
Quote from: Paul Finch on November 22, 2012, 10:05:54 AM
Probably not, there is no doubt that Lloris is a good keeper, and I realise that he is the future, but I just wonder whether he is ready for the rigors of the PL just yet, I think he needs to be broken in very gently, some of the things that he has done in the games that he has played have highlighted to me that as good a keeper that he is, when it comes to the PL, it is just a little bit faster than he is used to, and that shows, also the quality of the players that he is playing against are better than he is used to playing against week-in week-out.

By the same token, what about the quality of the back 4 in front of him
Title: Re: Lazio v Tottenham
Post by: spursjoolz on November 22, 2012, 02:50:20 PM
I have also heard the rumour about Friedel and BR, so there is probably something in it. I hope Lloris claims his place as our regular keeper from now on.   

And yes, Ade is only banned from domestic fixtures, so he should play tonight. on. :ohyeah:

In view of the Di Mateo sacking,  AVB will be nervous tonight.  A win in Rome is must for him,  for us and for everything Spurs!  :up:

Tragedy srtikes one fellow Spurs supporter in Rome today. Stabbed by some coward. I wish him a speedy recovery! Let's hope the police find the culprits and EUFA punish Lazio with all they deserve: Point decuctions and bans.    >:(
Title: Re: Lazio v Tottenham
Post by: spursjoolz on November 22, 2012, 08:03:04 PM
Anyway 0-0 not the final score I would have wished for but we could have been 4 -0 down in the first half.

Lloris was absolutely superb. I repeat that he should be without a doubt our no.1 keeper and for many years to come (no offence to Friedel again).

To sum up a difficult game against a well organised team, we didn't create much even after the subs came on but the slack defense of last week was very strong today.

We are still in it :ohyeah:
Title: Re: Lazio v Tottenham
Post by: Glenn R on November 22, 2012, 09:15:17 PM
I watched the game. It was lucky that Lloris was on form. I thought things improved when Dembele came on. But he needs a few more games under his belt. Next game West Ham on Sunday.
Title: Re: Lazio v Tottenham
Post by: RSS61 on November 23, 2012, 07:50:41 AM
Yeah, not our best ever performance, but job almost done.
Title: Re: Lazio v Tottenham
Post by: spursjoolz on November 23, 2012, 02:16:21 PM
In view of Lloris' performance yesterday, he will give his back four more much needed confidence and will be our regular GK for the next 8 to 10 years.

Should AVB decide to play Friedel instead this week-end, I will start asking questions!

We have soarly missed Dembele and his return is yet another bonus. All we need now is Parker, Kaboul and BAE to return and barring more injuries in between, AVB should be able to find his best 11.

Arry for the R's?  :2funny:
Title: Re: Lazio v Tottenham
Post by: Glenn R on November 23, 2012, 04:35:07 PM
Quote from: spursjoolz on November 23, 2012, 02:16:21 PM
In view of Lloris' performance yesterday, he will give his back four more much needed confidence and will be our regular GK for the next 8 to 10 years.

Should AVB decide to play Friedel instead this week-end, I will start asking questions!

We have soarly missed Dembele and his return is yet another bonus. All we need now is Parker, Kaboul and BAE to return and barring more injuries in between, AVB should be able to find his best 11.

Arry for the R's?  :2funny:

Agreed.
Title: Re: Lazio v Tottenham
Post by: Paul Finch on November 24, 2012, 12:34:24 AM
So obviously you are blaming Friedel for the defences lack of confidence, what about some of the individuals in the defence's poor performances, Gallas and Walkers for instance. Please don't try and  make Friedel the scapegoat, he alone has probably saved us from a couple of embarassing defeats with a string of quality saves, so how about paying him a bit more respect.


 :nods: :nods:



Title: Re: Lazio v Tottenham
Post by: RiffHard on November 24, 2012, 08:12:15 AM
Quote from: Paul Finch on November 24, 2012, 12:34:24 AM
So obviously you are blaming Friedel for the defences lack of confidence, what about some of the individuals in the defence's poor performances, Gallas and Walkers for instance. Please don't try and  make Friedel the scapegoat, he alone has probably saved us from a couple of embarassing defeats with a string of quality saves, so how about paying him a bit more respect.
Who is blaming? Friedel has been great for us, but in all fairness, he is not our keeper for the next 5-10 years, and as the club brought in a world class keeper, it is obvious he needs to play. Friedel probably understands that as well.
Title: Re: Lazio v Tottenham
Post by: Paul Finch on November 24, 2012, 08:35:05 AM
Riff, whilst I agree with you, the wording of spursjoolz quote certainly makes it look as though he feels that way, which caused me to make my observation.


 :nods: :nods:
Title: Re: Lazio v Tottenham
Post by: spursjoolz on November 24, 2012, 01:42:46 PM
Quote from: Paul Finch on November 24, 2012, 12:34:24 AM
So obviously you are blaming Friedel for the defences lack of confidence, what about some of the individuals in the defence's poor performances, Gallas and Walkers for instance. Please don't try and  make Friedel the scapegoat, he alone has probably saved us from a couple of embarassing defeats with a string of quality saves, so how about paying him a bit more respect.


 :nods: :nods:



If you read my recent posts you will see that I have never blamed Friedel for anything. Quite the opposite in fact. He has been and still is an excellent keeper and I have every respect for him.

But there is a time when things have to change and this time has come. The age gap (41 v 25) is beginning to show and will become even more apparent as the season goes. He must know that his days are numbered and I am pretty sure that he would want to move on before his 45th!! 

I believe that Lloris' performance in Rome will add confidence to our back 4 and to the team as a whole. He has shown how sharp and agile he can be and has shown a great presence behind his defenders.
 
Besides, the French Manager is getting restless and it's only a matter of time before he and Lloris lose patience. The last thing AVB needs is pressure from the French camp. :nope:

We have 2 great keepers, it's simply a matter of looking to the future. It simply does not make sense to wait any longer.
Title: Re: Lazio v Tottenham
Post by: spursjoolz on November 24, 2012, 01:48:30 PM
In addition to this I would agree with some of you that, as "Gallas is getting on a bit" and has lost a little keeness :lol:, Dawson should be given a chance and tomorrow should be the day.
Title: Re: Lazio v Tottenham
Post by: Tricky on November 30, 2012, 06:53:20 PM
Lloris really stepped up his game and showed what he could do here.
Title: Re: Lazio v Tottenham
Post by: Glenn R on November 30, 2012, 08:29:54 PM
Quote from: Tricky on November 30, 2012, 06:53:20 PM
Lloris really stepped up his game and showed what he could do here.

I agree. He seems to be making his position permanent. I've been very impressed with him of late.