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Title: Andorra Vs England
Post by: SpursLad on March 25, 2007, 04:27:51 PM
Andorra Vs England
EURO 2008 QUALIFIER - Wednesday 28, March 2007
Title: Andorra Vs England
Post by: Biggs on March 25, 2007, 04:34:52 PM
i dont even know what the result we be after last nights performance
Title: Andorra Vs England
Post by: COYS on March 25, 2007, 04:37:32 PM
well after last nights performance i wouldn't be suprised if we lost, but with the quality in our team i don't understand how we can be so poor:dunno:
Title: Andorra Vs England
Post by: Daniisco on March 25, 2007, 04:49:00 PM
Even with last nights shocking display we should win this with ease. I hope Lennon starts on the right this time or at least in the second half.

I've been to the Olympic Stadium in Barcelona where they're playing. You have to walk for ages to get to it, its on a massive hill.
Title: Andorra Vs England
Post by: DC76 on March 25, 2007, 08:35:52 PM
Team England has to win this one by three or more. It's time to make a statement that England still has it. And not only that, but Andorra's only players of note are Serie B bench calibre at best. If anyone from Andorra scores on England in this game, I WILL FLIP.:wacko::wacko::wacko::wacko:
Title: Andorra Vs England
Post by: Powerage on March 26, 2007, 02:24:33 PM
The quality of the team should be that we demolish any opponent, but thats not the case. For a start, I'm gonna go ape if Lampard starts again, Gerrard needs the room to play in the centre and if Stevie is given the space he can control a game. Dawson should play but I don't know if hes even in the squad, don't bother with Rooney, Crouch and Defoe would be a good attack too start with.

Things are so bad at England I think Beckham should be brought back as a sub.
Title: Andorra Vs England
Post by: Daniisco on March 26, 2007, 05:26:21 PM
Quote from: Powerage;1197
Things are so bad at England I think Beckham should be brought back as a sub.

Things aren't that desperate yet lol

If we start with Lennon on the right we'll win easily, no way could they contain him.
Title: Andorra Vs England
Post by: Daniisco on March 27, 2007, 04:28:58 PM
What team would you put out to face Andorra?

Mine would be;

     
                  Robinson

Richards        Terry         Ferdinand           Cole

Lennon     Gerrard     Hargreaves     Downing

                  Defoe     Rooney
Title: Andorra Vs England
Post by: Daniisco on March 28, 2007, 04:16:54 PM
Good news Lampard looks set to miss the game with his wrist injury. I reckon he wouldnt have started anyway.
Title: Andorra Vs England
Post by: Powerage on March 28, 2007, 10:03:51 PM
**** David Nugent, jammy ****, **** you that was Defoe's goal
Title: Andorra Vs England
Post by: Biggs on March 28, 2007, 10:08:26 PM
lol yeah that was funny, you could tell Defoe was annoyed

but on the game i don't think you can excuse the first half performance
Title: Andorra Vs England
Post by: Powerage on March 28, 2007, 10:24:15 PM
We were shocking and im really dissapointed in gerrard for his diving, the ref was a ****in faggot, how could he let andorra get away with their unbelivable behaviour and book hargreaves?

fair play to rooney for not allowing himself to get sent off under the circumstances
Title: Andorra Vs England
Post by: DC76 on March 28, 2007, 10:36:22 PM
That ref really looked eager to brandish that little yellow card he keeps in his pocket. I'm happy with the three for England, but there should have been more goals. McLaren's off the hook... for now.:Green_Colorz_PDT_11
 
If England puts on a poor showing against Estonia (6 June), I'll be calling for McLaren's head.
 
Gerrard is the last person I'd expect to dive. Shocking stuff.
Title: Andorra Vs England
Post by: Daniisco on March 28, 2007, 11:01:24 PM
What a load of rubbish, shocking display.

Even though we won 3-0 it was still a sh1t result. Gerrard's dive was disgraceful.
Title: Andorra Vs England
Post by: Biggs on March 28, 2007, 11:10:43 PM
Iv have seen Gerrard Dive a few times for liverpool

but iv got to admit he is not as good as Zokora yet :spoton:
Title: Andorra Vs England
Post by: DC76 on March 29, 2007, 12:54:47 AM
True enough. But I don't like it when Zokora dives :p
 
That said, Zokora's far from the worst offender. Thierry Henry, Cristiano Ronaldo, Milan Baroš, Mauro Camoranesi and Didier Drogba come to mind for me.
 
The minnows seem to be doing better than usual lately. Luxembourg only lost one-nil and Liechtenstein beat Latvia today, then there was Kazakhstan beating Serbia on Saturday. So I think 3-0 is decent, even though we were sh*t in the first half.
Title: Andorra Vs England
Post by: Powerage on March 29, 2007, 05:10:26 PM
Unfortunately when Gerrard has his back pressed against the wall, for example Sheffield United on the first game of the season, he will do whatever it takes too avoid defeat, and that also includes diving.
Title: Andorra Vs England
Post by: Daniisco on March 29, 2007, 05:16:54 PM
Its a shame though cause he doesnt need to do that, he's a world class player. Diving is no way to win a game, no matter what.
Title: Andorra Vs England
Post by: COYS on March 29, 2007, 05:24:10 PM
its a shame he dived, but there is no other player in the team that could of scored his second goal. and because of his dive we're forgetting that he was the player who won the game for us!
Title: Andorra Vs England
Post by: Dimitar B. on March 29, 2007, 05:34:48 PM
COYS, his 2nd goal wasn't that great, just two simple touches and a placed finish....

Any proffesional footballer could do it.:wacko:
Title: Andorra Vs England
Post by: Powerage on March 29, 2007, 05:36:56 PM
It was the control, skill, team work and the finish that made it so good for me. Plus by the way he was running, he left himself totally open so the keeper could see what he was gonna do and Stevie still executed it perfectly.
Title: Andorra Vs England
Post by: SpursLad on March 29, 2007, 07:41:51 PM
Why do we even need four defenders and a holding midfielder against Andorra anyway?
Hargreaves was not needed, all he did was slow our game down. Ferdinand or Richards shouldn't have played and we should have gone 3 at the back.

Downing is not England quality. Lennon and Gerrard showed why they should play where they are naturally suited. Johnson IMO was ineffectual and Defoe was alot more lively and deserved to start. Rooney responded well to the abuse he got but he had another poor game.

McClaren must go. He cannot motivate the team, picks shocking tactics and always attempts to put a positive spin on things. The fans were right to boo, the way we were playing against a pub team was shocking.

Things must improve. 3-0 but a s**t performance.
Title: Andorra Vs England
Post by: COYS on March 29, 2007, 07:58:38 PM
:yeahthat:
 i agree McLaren must go, downing should not be wearing an england shirt, he is only playing because he is left footed and imo wayne rooney has been completley crap the last few games. Lampard is s*** for england aswell.


McLaren needs to be sacked
Becks needs to return
Title: Andorra Vs England
Post by: Dimitar B. on March 29, 2007, 08:03:14 PM
---------------Robbo--------------
-----------------------------------
Richards----Dawsome--Terry---Barry
-----------------------------------
--------Beckham------------------
------------------Gerrard---------
Lennon----------------------J.Cole
---------Rooney-------Crouch-----



Sorted. i should be manager.
Title: Andorra Vs England
Post by: Daniisco on March 29, 2007, 08:13:45 PM
Beckham, your having a laugh. All he can do is hoof the ball 50 yards.

I'd like to see them try this formation. 4-3-3 basically.

---------------Robbo--------------
-----------------------------------
Richards----King--Terry---A.Cole---
-----------------------------------
--------Hargreaves-----Carrick----
--------------Gerrard-------------
Lennon-----------------------J.Cole
--------------Rooney--------------

I think this could work, with Gerrard making his forward runs supporting Ronney.
Title: Andorra Vs England
Post by: Dimitar B. on March 29, 2007, 08:29:59 PM
Ahhh, Carrick. I knew i was forgetting someone when putting Beckham in... So this is how it should be :

---------------Robbo--------------
-----------------------------------
Richards----Dawsome*--Terry---Barry
-----------------------------------
--------Carrick--------------------
------------------Gerrard---------
Lennon----------------------J.Cole
---------Rooney-------Crouch-----

* king if Fit.

:)
Title: Andorra Vs England
Post by: SpursLad on March 30, 2007, 07:51:39 AM
Rooney cannot play on his own upfront, he cannot drop deep which is his strength and he gets isolated. He needs someone pacey up there so that rules out Crouch who is NOT England quality. I know a Real Madrid season ticket holder and he has said since being dropped Beckham has been quality in centre mid. He has got energy, can tackle and can pass a hell of alot better then Hargreaves. Plus we benefit from his set pieces which were terrible on Wens.

---------------Robbo--------------
-----------------------------------
Neville----Ferdinand--Terry---Cole/Bridge
-----------------------------------
--------Beckham--------------------
------------------Gerrard---------
Lennon----------------------J.Cole
---------Rooney-------Owen/Defoe-----
Title: Andorra Vs England
Post by: Daniisco on March 30, 2007, 02:44:00 PM
Beckham cannot tackle to save his life IMO. The team needs to move on without him. Real Madrid fans are the most delusional around, and when ive seen Madrid on TV all Beckham does is hit long balls or take free kicks. Never does he try and beat a player. We have players that can offer a lot more.  But thats my opinion.

As for Rooney if he is a so called talent he should be able to play anywhere. He had Johnson upfront with him in the last 2 games who is very pacey and played sh*t. So obviously thats not the case.

With the formation I put down, he would have support from Joe Cole, Lennon and Gerrard so he wouldn't be isolated.