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Tottenham Discussion => Spurs Chat => Topic started by: ugs on December 15, 2013, 09:17:42 PM
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Well I think we can safely say that AVB's days are numbered especially if he dosen't change things around, and theres been no sign of him changing his tactics or style of play for the last year.....
So who do you want to take his place (sensible answer please).....
I start things off with Glenn Hoddle
I know I know but I beleive that he was well ahead of his time and his style of football is now relevant just look at Liverpool, Everton, Swansea etc etc..
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If that does happen then I would give Hoddle another go or Redknapp or Jol.
But if we are going for someone new I would go for Laudrup, Martinez or Mancini (or fergusson till the end of the season lol)
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Roberto Di Matteo, returning managers are very much like returning players their best times for the club is behind them so I would say avoid!
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Well I think we can safely say that AVB's days are numbered especially if he dosen't change things around, and theres been no sign of him changing his tactics or style of play for the last year.....
So who do you want to take his place (sensible answer please).....
I start things off with Glenn Hoddle
I know I know but I beleive that he was well ahead of his time and his style of football is now relevant just look at Liverpool, Everton, Swansea etc etc..
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Keith Burkinshaw is still only 78, maybe he'll fancy a shot. Hoddle last managed a team in 2006 and was pretty poor at it. As he was with Spurs...
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If that does happen then I would give Hoddle another go or Redknapp or Jol.
But if we are going for someone new I would go for Laudrup, Martinez or Mancini (or fergusson till the end of the season lol)
Martin Jol is one of the most likeable managers in the game, but he is not a very good manager.
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Jol did start things of for us, all those years ago before he was shat on by Levy from a great height.
I really do think if we got Hoddle in it would be worse than bringing back Ramos.
If we are to move forward and AVB does get the boot (only a matter of time considering all performances in the EPL this season) we need a proven EPL manager who knows the English game, can manage egos and is bold enough to attack and try things when plan A has gone to s**t.
I have given my suggestion already cant think of anyone else.
Now I just shat myself, on facebook a photo of Cappello at White Hart Lane.... please no
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NONE OF THE ABOVE! :tickedoff:
Should AVB be sacked (which looks pretty unavoidable, I am sad to say), we must avois Postman Pat, Hoddle, Jol, Mancini at all costs. Martinez has just signed for Everton, so is unlikely to swap camp this soon. Frankly, I can't see anyone that would fit the bill.
Sad times indeed!
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Inevitable I guess.........
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Some of you will have had their Christmas wish! It's now 11. 15 am Monday morning and i have just read that AVB has been sacked. So, new names please and let's give points to the one with the correct answer.
>:( :'(
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Apparently by mutual consent!
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Unavoidable really.
So, new names please and let's give points to the one with the correct answer!
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All my Christmas dreams have come true ...... AVB never darken our door again with your boring football and useless tactics.
My 18 months of sufferring have ended I feel like our Club has been handed back and anything is now possible once again !!!!!
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Apparently by mutual consent!
I don't care he's gone I feel like we have our club back and the sky's the limit
COYS
:D :dance: 8D :ohyeah:
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I would guess as an interim, Glenn Hoddle would be in the frame, as he's available.
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Apparently by mutual consent!
I don't care he's gone I feel like we have our club back and the sky's the limit
COYS
:D :dance: 8D :ohyeah:
I'm afraid you won't be that happy in May. Anyway I've merged two threads, so, keep all the chat about our new manager in here.
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When and where was this announced?? :-\ :-\ :-\
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When and where was this announced?? :-\ :-\ :-\
http://www.tottenhamhotspur.com/news/club-agrees-departure-of-andre-villas-boas-161213/ (http://www.tottenhamhotspur.com/news/club-agrees-departure-of-andre-villas-boas-161213/)
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I've just seen the announcement on the Club Web-site. I am not surprised after yesterdays debacle.
I await with interest to see who is installed there aren't that many quality coaches available at the moment. It will be interesting, personally I don't think Capello is the answer.
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We need someone who has experience at the highest level. Who has been successful and can gain the immediate respect of the players. I think there are two main contenders Hoddle and Capello. Neither are high on my wanted list but they do fit the requirements.
When Hoddle was with us before the squad wasn't good enough to play the way he wanted. For me England played some of their best football under him.
Capello's down side to me is his lack of communication, would he get his message across?
If you said to either of these - manage us till the end of the season, if we make CL they will get a two year contract.
Whatever happens, it will give us time to plan our next approach. Think it is time for Levy to step sideways. He has to take responsibility for this too.
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AVB had a job to do and he hasn't done it
Maybe given time things would have improved, we would have scored goals
etc. etc. but IMO I think I was hoping rather than expecting a turnaround.
Now without a manager, It will be interesting to see what happens.
I cannot see a manager that is available that I would jump at.
However with us being in Europe and a good squad of players maybe we
will attract someone with some pedigree that will lift us back into the top 4.
How about Roberto Di Mateo, he followed on from AVB at Chelsea and got them performing.
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Capello? No! I don't think his terror-regime is the appropriate one right now.
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After going to the game yesterday I wasn’t surprised that he was sacked. It was a terrible result with a terrible performance. Personally, though, I didn’t think he should have been sacked. He had one of the best records for a Spurs manager in the premier League (54%). Our fortunes changed when we had a player sent off. But now he has gone we have to look forward to a new manager and a new dawn.
One thing is sure; whoever takes over won't be given time to settle in.
Who next?
Fabio Capello? No, I don't fancy him.
At the moment I would go for Klinnsmann, Hoddle or Michael Laudrup. Sherwood will be Spurs manager when we face West Ham.
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AVB had a job to do and he hasn't done it
Maybe given time things would have improved, we would have scored goals
etc. etc. but IMO I think I was hoping rather than expecting a turnaround.
Now without a manager, It will be interesting to see what happens.
I cannot see a manager that is available that I would jump at.
However with us being in Europe and a good squad of players maybe we
will attract someone with some pedigree that will lift us back into the top 4.
How about Roberto Di Mateo, he followed on from AVB at Chelsea and got them performing.
Sorry mate but I think Di Matteo would be a disaster - he only got Chelsea playing because they were his mates - nothing to do with being a good manager.
Capello has won EVERYTHING at club level - there is no better candidate.
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AVB had a job to do and he hasn't done it
Maybe given time things would have improved, we would have scored goals
etc. etc. but IMO I think I was hoping rather than expecting a turnaround.
Now without a manager, It will be interesting to see what happens.
I cannot see a manager that is available that I would jump at.
However with us being in Europe and a good squad of players maybe we
will attract someone with some pedigree that will lift us back into the top 4.
How about Roberto Di Mateo, he followed on from AVB at Chelsea and got them performing.
Sorry mate but I think Di Matteo would be a disaster - he only got Chelsea playing because they were his mates - nothing to do with being a good manager.
Capello has won EVERYTHING at club level - there is no better candidate.
At club level (and European club level) but was a failure for England.
Di Matteo I think would be a mistake.
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After going to the game yesterday I wasn’t surprised that he was sacked. It was a terrible result with a terrible performance. Personally, though, I didn’t think he should have been sacked. He had one of the best records for a Spurs manager in the premier League (54%). Our fortunes changed when we had a player sent off. But now he has gone we have to look forward to a new manager and a new dawn.
One thing is sure; whoever takes over won't be given time to settle in.
Who next?
Fabio Capello? No, I don't fancy him.
At the moment I would go for Klinnsmann, Hoddle or Michael Laudrup. Sherwood will be Spurs manager when we face West Ham.
We were 2-0 down when Paulinho got sent off and Liverpool had hit the post and bar without a single shot on target from us, hardly changed the game in their favour !!!
As for 54% win ratio you can make stats look good under most circumstances take out all the games Bale won us and see how good his stats are plus his football was boring and tedious !!
Anyway this season its only 50% with a -6 Goal Difference, face it AVB was tactically inept with no plan B !!
Time to bring back Hoddle !!!
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After going to the game yesterday I wasn’t surprised that he was sacked. It was a terrible result with a terrible performance. Personally, though, I didn’t think he should have been sacked. He had one of the best records for a Spurs manager in the premier League (54%). Our fortunes changed when we had a player sent off. But now he has gone we have to look forward to a new manager and a new dawn.
One thing is sure; whoever takes over won't be given time to settle in.
Who next?
Fabio Capello? No, I don't fancy him.
At the moment I would go for Klinnsmann, Hoddle or Michael Laudrup. Sherwood will be Spurs manager when we face West Ham.
We were 2-0 down when Paulinho got sent off and Liverpool had hit the post and bar without a single shot on target from us, hardly changed the game in their favour !!!
As for 54% win ratio you can make stats look good under most circumstances take out all the games Bale won us and see how good his stats are plus his football was boring and tedious !!
Anyway this season its only 50% with a -6 Goal Difference, face it AVB was tactically inept with no plan B !!
Time to bring back Hoddle !!!
As I previously had said; I wasn't surprised that he got the sack. Now we have to look to the future.
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I actually expect Capello to me announced very shortly or him being at WHL is a smoke screen. If find it hard to believe Levy has sacked AVB without a successor already as good as signed.
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I actually expect Capello to me announced very shortly or him being at WHL is a smoke screen. If find it hard to believe Levy has sacked AVB without a successor already as good as signed.
As long as Hoddle doesn't come anywhere near the training ground, I will be happy. Great player and a Spurs legend without a doubt and it stops there.
As I have already mentioned, He did sod all the first time around at Spurs, useless at Chelsea and even less at Wolves. Hasn't done anything since 2006 other than being a guest pundit on TV. :2funny: :2funny:
And some of you guys want him as our manager? :nope: :nope: :nope: :nope:
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[Sorry mate but I think Di Matteo would be a disaster - he only got Chelsea playing because they were his mates - nothing to do with being a good manager.
Capello has won EVERYTHING at club level - there is no better candidate.]
Agree with first part re: Matteo, and totally disagree with Capello, he did nothing with England other than try to rule with an Iron Fist, doesn't speak very good English and his communication skills are appalling, we need someone who will get the players we have, playing with some fluidity and very quickly. IMO
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Laudrup or Rodgers could suit us, but the latter wouldn't obviously come to us.
Di Matteo? He has even less experience than Villas-Boas (and don't start talking about that CL victory).
Capello - a bloody psychopath, if you ask me. He doesn't speak English enough to jump in mid-season and quickly turn things around. Unless we want another Juande Ramos, of course.
Roberto Mancini? Do we want a manager who is only capable of blaming his players, but never himself? A manager who scuffles with his own players in training despite it being Balotelli who is a seriously retarded individual.
Hoddle? But why not Christian Gross or George Graham? They also had much less talent in their squads back then.
As our DoF is an Italian I really hope we won't be bringing in Italian manager.
Oh, almost forgot - Gianfranco Zola and Paolo Di Canio are both available. : :ohyeah:
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With you on that Riff I really dont want Capello, but I fear he may be very strong in the running.
I wouldnt be surprised to see a club statement today or after the Wet Spam game regarding the new manager!
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What we need is to stabilize, and re-group. Much as I dont like him, in the same way as Rafa did it for Chelsea, we need someone like Capello to do it for us until the end of the season,
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Been listening to talk sport and other sports related media and all the pundits and ex pro's all come up with the same name when they are asked who should be given the Spurs job..... Hoddle !!!
At the momemt it looks like Sherwood and Ferdinand are taking it on for the short term but why not bring in Hoddle and have these two as his assistants, wealth of experience and an understanding of the club !!!
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Been listening to talk sport and other sports related media and all the pundits and ex pro's all come up with the same name when they are asked who should be given the Spurs job..... Hoddle !!!
At the momemt it looks like Sherwood and Ferdinand are taking it on for the short term but why not bring in Hoddle and have these two as his assistants, wealth of experience and an understanding of the club !!!
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Valid points UGS
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After going to the game yesterday I wasn’t surprised that he was sacked. It was a terrible result with a terrible performance. Personally, though, I didn’t think he should have been sacked. He had one of the best records for a Spurs manager in the premier League (54%). Our fortunes changed when we had a player sent off. But now he has gone we have to look forward to a new manager and a new dawn.
One thing is sure; whoever takes over won't be given time to settle in.
Who next?
Fabio Capello? No, I don't fancy him.
At the moment I would go for Klinnsmann, Hoddle or Michael Laudrup. Sherwood will be Spurs manager when we face West Ham.
We were 2-0 down when Paulinho got sent off and Liverpool had hit the post and bar without a single shot on target from us, hardly changed the game in their favour !!!
As for 54% win ratio you can make stats look good under most circumstances take out all the games Bale won us and see how good his stats are plus his football was boring and tedious !!
Anyway this season its only 50% with a -6 Goal Difference, face it AVB was tactically inept with no plan B !!
Time to bring back Hoddle !!!
If you listen to all the current talk one thing everybody agrees about is that we had too many new players to embed quickly. If he was given time he would have got there. But I don't think that was why he was sacked. He was sacked because Levy wanted certain players played and instant success. You can't do that with so many new players.
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I would like to see how Tim Sherwood does over his two allotted games. If he wins both games impressively it might be hard to dislodge him.
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Hoddle ????? FFS have some of you forgotten the f**king mess he left us in ?
Mancini ? Hmmmm , spent a fortune at city and still got the sack
Jol , great man but hasn`t exactly lit up the world since levy sacked him
I don`t see why everyone is so against cappello as he`s won pretty much everything in football . Forget what happened with england . With the likes of lampard , terry and cole still playing such a high profile part in the england team and no world class younger players coming through i don`t think anyone else could do a better job , plus , he was undermined by the f.a . I think we need a high profile , proven mamager who has been there seen it and done it . Either cappello or hiddink would be good appointments . Hving said that i think sherwood and sir les will steady the ship nicely .
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Hoddle ????? FFS have some of you forgotten the f**king mess he left us in ?
Hoddle has matured since he was last here and had plenty of experience. Whether that is good enough we will have to see (or not).
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Hoddle ??? ?? FFS have some of you forgotten the f**king mess he left us in ?
Hoddle has matured since he was last here and had plenty of experience. Whether that is good enough we will have to see (or not).
Its a valid point Voice he has matured but when he was at the club the first time round there wasn't the same financial stability or people inplace to assist him. He was trying to play the kind of football that Liverpool, Everton and Swansea are now playing without the resources and squad, quite frankly the players he had were not up to the job !!
Alot of things have now changed and our squad has the potential to be as good as any other top 4 squad in the league if the players are played in the correct way and positions, I think the squad lends itself to the football that Hoddle likes to play.
Finally if you look at Hoddles England career he had a 61% win ratio mainly due to him having players capable of playing the way he wanted at the level requried and due to a misquoted interview that job was taken away before he had fullfilled his potential.
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Hoddle ??? ?? FFS have some of you forgotten the f**king mess he left us in ?
Hoddle has matured since he was last here and had plenty of experience. Whether that is good enough we will have to see (or not).
Its a valid point Voice he has matured but when he was at the club the first time round there wasn't the same financial stability or people inplace to assist him. He was trying to play the kind of football that Liverpool, Everton and Swansea are now playing without the resources and squad, quite frankly the players he had were not up to the job !!
Alot of things have now changed and our squad has the potential to be as good as any other top 4 squad in the league if the players are played in the correct way and positions, I think the squad lends itself to the football that Hoddle likes to play.
Finally if you look at Hoddles England career he had a 61% win ratio mainly due to him having players capable of playing the way he wanted at the level requried and due to a misquoted interview that job was taken away before he had fullfilled his potential.
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The trouble is we won't really know unless we take the gamble. Whoever we get will be a gamble.
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Bring Harry Redknapp back or Jupp Heynckes...but thing he wan´t manage at the moment 8)
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Bring Harry Redknapp back or Jupp Heynckes...but thing he wan´t manage at the moment 8)
One person we don't want back at White Hart Lane and that is 'Arry Houdini pick a pocket or two Redknapp.
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I'll throw a new name in. Marcelo Bielsa the former manager of Athletic Bilbao who gave Man Utd a good chasing a couple of years ago. They played some wonderful football and were a joy to watch. Apart from Llorente they had no real stars, but they played with pace and flair, just what we need at the moment. As far as I can tell he is currently available as his contract expired in June. Pep Guardiola described him as The best Manager in the world and Llorente said he was a genius so he cant be to bad.
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I'll throw a new name in. Marcelo Bielsa the former manager of Athletic Bilbao who gave Man Utd a good chasing a couple of years ago. They played some wonderful football and were a joy to watch. Apart from Llorente they had no real stars, but they played with pace and flair, just what we need at the moment. As far as I can tell he is currently available as his contract expired in June. Pep Guardiola described him as The best Manager in the world and Llorente said he was a genius so he cant be to bad.
I am betting it will be one of the obvious candidates.
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Bring Harry Redknapp back or Jupp Heynckes...but thing he wan´t manage at the moment 8)
One person we don't want back at White Hart Lane and that is 'Arry Houdini pick a pocket or two Redknapp.
Hell, I'd take Redknapp over the psychotic axe-man Italian any day.
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Bring Harry Redknapp back or Jupp Heynckes...but thing he wan´t manage at the moment 8)
One person we don't want back at White Hart Lane and that is 'Arry Houdini pick a pocket or two Redknapp.
Hell, I'd take Redknapp over the psychotic axe-man Italian any day.
I don't want either. Let us hope that Levy picks somebody we can all get behind.
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I'll throw a new name in. Marcelo Bielsa the former manager of Athletic Bilbao who gave Man Utd a good chasing a couple of years ago. They played some wonderful football and were a joy to watch. Apart from Llorente they had no real stars, but they played with pace and flair, just what we need at the moment. As far as I can tell he is currently available as his contract expired in June. Pep Guardiola described him as The best Manager in the world and Llorente said he was a genius so he cant be to bad.
I am betting it will be one of the obvious candidates.
Probably but you never know with Levy. Bielsa was also the man who started the revolution in Chilean football that saw them beat England recently.
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I'll throw a new name in. Marcelo Bielsa the former manager of Athletic Bilbao who gave Man Utd a good chasing a couple of years ago. They played some wonderful football and were a joy to watch. Apart from Llorente they had no real stars, but they played with pace and flair, just what we need at the moment. As far as I can tell he is currently available as his contract expired in June. Pep Guardiola described him as The best Manager in the world and Llorente said he was a genius so he cant be to bad.
I am betting it will be one of the obvious candidates.
Probably but you never know with Levy. Bielsa was also the man who started the revolution in Chilean football that saw them beat England recently.
I suppose that is true. He surprised me with 'Arry and AVB. However, AVB I did like and I don't think he got a fair crack at the whip.
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Bring Harry Redknapp back or Jupp Heynckes...but thing he wan´t manage at the moment 8)
One person we don't want back at White Hart Lane and that is 'Arry Houdini pick a pocket or two Redknapp.
Hell, I'd take Redknapp over the psychotic axe-man Italian any day.
I don't want either. Let us hope that Levy picks somebody we can all get behind.
To be honest, the club have f**ked up so much during the last ten years or so that it's hard to see a decision Levy could make that would unite fans. And it's getting worse with every decision...
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Time to bring back Hoddle !!!
Levy could appoint Chris waddle as his sidekick! :2funny:
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Bring Harry Redknapp back or Jupp Heynckes...but thing he wan´t manage at the moment 8)
One person we don't want back at White Hart Lane and that is 'Arry Houdini pick a pocket or two Redknapp.
The one person you don't want back, you voice not we, you do not speak for everyone. You would rather let no experience Sherwood take over, after hypothetically doing well in two games than someone who had us playing the best football I have seen Spurs play in my lifetime. Brilliant, I can see your logic.
That being said, I do not think that we should have Harry back, I don't think it would create the right impression on the players. In my mind he shouldn't have been sacked. Levy's dangerous experiment has backfired.
I will get to Levy later.
But Voice please tell me that Sherwood isn't your number one option. If we could have any manager in the world who would you choose? Then tell me which manager you would like, who we could realistically expect to see at WHL?
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Jol - nice man, lacking in tactical awareness, not high profile (not given enough support)
Redknapp - great team manager, free flowing football. lacking in loyalty? Financial trustworthiness? Not able to change tactics mid-game (not given enough financial backing)
AVB - up and coming, point to prove, good coach? lacking in tactical awareness, not a team manager (not given enough time? lacks the confidence to succeed?)
There is something that has prevented Spurs from being more successful and the common denominator is Levy. Levy has to take responsibility for the failures at Spurs. I believe that each of these managers could have been more successful than they were. Levy has to change or else we will be forever in no man's land.
Levy must do the following things if he is to remain in charge and choose the next manager
1.) Think long and hard about who to choose next
2.) Select someone who is a great team manager, who can get the best from his players
3.) Choose someone who has experience at the top
4.) Choose someone who is tactically astute
5.) Choose someone who is able to change tactics dependent on opponent or game situations
6.) Give them enough transfer funds to buy 1 big signing every season and additional funds for squad players if necessary. (based on the idea that the players present should be good enough and only minimalchanges needed each year.
7.)If a player is sold like Bale, replace that player alongside point 6.
8.) Choose a manger that likes to play attacking attractive football
9.) Who is also good defensively
10.) Stick to your decision, give them time 3 years at least, do not sack them for losing a couple of games, or when we are still close but not quite there year 1 and 2 may not be brilliant but year 3 could be the best and from there we are laughing.
In order for you to find that person you will need time, just employ an interim manager, who may end up fulfilling the above points, but don't sign them until you are sure.
It saddens me but Ars*nal have that board, that philosophy, that approach, that manager. Wenger wouldn't have lasted under Levy and therein lies our problem.
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Great post Dimexi!!
After what has been spent in the transfer window and how we have performed over recent seasons with what is now deemed our strongest squad for decades whoever is appointed will be expected to achieve and quick, unfairly so in my opinion.
I have never been a fan of forever changing the manager when things don't work out, however we have had some right lemons, Gross, Ramos, Francis, Hoddle, that french bloke to name but a few. As rightly pointed out certain other teams deemed our competitors don't ditch the manager when things to go to plan, Liverpool a prime example with BR and now look at them this season.
I recall a few months ago stating how in the past a director of football didn't work for us last time in Comolli and a fear the same issues may have risen again with AVB, but this we can only speculate and will probably never know.
Patience is needed with whoever we appoint next and perhaps our ambitions lowered to reflect the transitional period ahead. Again I personally will be looking at one game at a time as I have done all season. Now looking to Tim and Les to steady the ship dramatically and have our players playing football we are capable of, from this I hope the team will build some confidence which is surely lacking.
Either way Tim and Les and however comes in for the long term has their work cut out, not just on the pitch to get the best out of the vast talent we have and keep us supporters happy but also dealing with what goes on behind closed doors as I believe this is where a lot of the issues lie and has been our downfall for a long time but again with this we can only speculate.
Sort term quick fix to steady and reduce damage, Hiddink or Di Matteo, long term build for the future Laudrup or Klinnsmann.
But my money is on Cappello who i think will turn out to be Ramos MKII or even worse!!
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Bring Harry Redknapp back or Jupp Heynckes...but thing he wan´t manage at the moment 8)
One person we don't want back at White Hart Lane and that is 'Arry Houdini pick a pocket or two Redknapp.
The one person you don't want back, you voice not we, you do not speak for everyone. You would rather let no experience Sherwood take over, after hypothetically doing well in two games than someone who had us playing the best football I have seen Spurs play in my lifetime. Brilliant, I can see your logic.
That being said, I do not think that we should have Harry back, I don't think it would create the right impression on the players. In my mind he shouldn't have been sacked. Levy's dangerous experiment has backfired.
I will get to Levy later.
But Voice please tell me that Sherwood isn't your number one option. If we could have any manager in the world who would you choose? Then tell me which manager you would like, who we could realistically expect to see at WHL?
Agreed Dimexi, some good points, the main one being Levy. As you rightly say, a dangerous experiment gone wrong. Wenger called it at the start of the season, when he said it is very dangerous to bring in so many changes in one go.
Bale was always going to leave, so take his money and good luck. But why on earth sell Caulker, Huddlestone, Parker, and BAE ? Alright, they were not worldbeaters, but they all have prem experience, and for what we got for them, surely we could have kept them, and slowly integrated one or two new players into the squad, in the same way the arses We could have spent Bales money, and some more on a CB LB a couple of midfielders and a striker.
As with Redknapp, will we ever know the real reason that AVB was sacked ?? I doubt it. What is more important for us going forwards is that whoever is appointed, he be given FULL control of transfers and who plays in the team. There is no other way to stop this continual problem.
Levy needs to be replaced.
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Bring Harry Redknapp back or Jupp Heynckes...but thing he wan´t manage at the moment 8)
One person we don't want back at White Hart Lane and that is 'Arry Houdini pick a pocket or two Redknapp.
The one person you don't want back, you voice not we, you do not speak for everyone. You would rather let no experience Sherwood take over, after hypothetically doing well in two games than someone who had us playing the best football I have seen Spurs play in my lifetime. Brilliant, I can see your logic.
That being said, I do not think that we should have Harry back, I don't think it would create the right impression on the players. In my mind he shouldn't have been sacked. Levy's dangerous experiment has backfired.
I will get to Levy later.
But Voice please tell me that Sherwood isn't your number one option. If we could have any manager in the world who would you choose? Then tell me which manager you would like, who we could realistically expect to see at WHL?
Had Levy have given Harry the funds + the players that he gave AVB we definitely would not be in the position that we are in now, people keep saying that Redknapp took us as far as he could, sorry I think that is s**t, he took us as far as he could with the players and money he was allowed to spend, which was Jack-s**t. The one thing that Harry and his coaching team did, was to get the team playing as a unit, and playing attractive attacking football, which has been a trade-mark of Spurs ever since Billy Nick. Yes Harry wanted the England Job, but tell me what Englishman worth his SALT wouldn't want the opportunity to coach his National Team.
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Bring Harry Redknapp back or Jupp Heynckes...but thing he wan´t manage at the moment 8)
One person we don't want back at White Hart Lane and that is 'Arry Houdini pick a pocket or two Redknapp.
The one person you don't want back, you voice not we, you do not speak for everyone. You would rather let no experience Sherwood take over, after hypothetically doing well in two games than someone who had us playing the best football I have seen Spurs play in my lifetime. Brilliant, I can see your logic.
That being said, I do not think that we should have Harry back, I don't think it would create the right impression on the players. In my mind he shouldn't have been sacked. Levy's dangerous experiment has backfired.
I will get to Levy later.
But Voice please tell me that Sherwood isn't your number one option. If we could have any manager in the world who would you choose? Then tell me which manager you would like, who we could realistically expect to see at WHL?
Had Levy have given Harry the funds + the players that he gave AVB we definitely would not be in the position that we are in now, people keep saying that Redknapp took us as far as he could, sorry I think that is s**t, he took us as far as he could with the players and money he was allowed to spend, which was Jack-s**t. The one thing that Harry and his coaching team did, was to get the team playing as a unit, and playing attractive attacking football, which has been a trade-mark of Spurs ever since Billy Nick. Yes Harry wanted the England Job, but tell me what Englishman worth his SALT wouldn't want the opportunity to coach his National Team.
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Agreed. And having assessed all the options this morning, then I would give Hoddle another go, and do as you suggest we should have done with Harry. Unless anyone has a better idea that is.
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RSS, As much as I loved Hoddle as a player, I just have doubts about him as a Senior Coach, I think that he may just have been out of the game, coaching wise for too long.
I would like to see Guus Hiddink appointed, although it would now appear that he is out of the running, unfortunately.
It is definitely in the hands of the Gods(namely Levy). So God Help Us. Levy got us into this mess, :nods: :nods: but I doubt that he can get us out of it. :nope: :nope: :nope:
We Shall See.
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RSS, As much as I loved Hoddle as a player, I just have doubts about him as a Senior Coach, I think that he may just have been out of the game, coaching wise for too long.
I would like to see Guus Hiddink appointed, although it would now appear that he is out of the running, unfortunately.
It is definitely in the hands of the Gods(namely Levy). So God Help Us. Levy got us into this mess, :nods: :nods: but I doubt that he can get us out of it. :nope: :nope: :nope:
We Shall See.
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Well we will see how Messrs Sherwood, Ferdinand & co get on. They are all part of and love our club, which is a start. And the same can be said of Hoddle, who I believe has kept very much in touch with the game through his work for Sky. I am sure he understands the principles of solid defending, coupled with quick FORWARD passing and width to the attack, with players in the box as the ball arrives there. Also, I reckon that the vast majority of Spurs fans would get right behind him if he did get the job.
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Bring Harry Redknapp back or Jupp Heynckes...but thing he wan´t manage at the moment 8)
One person we don't want back at White Hart Lane and that is 'Arry Houdini pick a pocket or two Redknapp.
The one person you don't want back, you voice not we, you do not speak for everyone. You would rather let no experience Sherwood take over, after hypothetically doing well in two games than someone who had us playing the best football I have seen Spurs play in my lifetime. Brilliant, I can see your logic.
That being said, I do not think that we should have Harry back, I don't think it would create the right impression on the players. In my mind he shouldn't have been sacked. Levy's dangerous experiment has backfired.
I will get to Levy later.
But Voice please tell me that Sherwood isn't your number one option. If we could have any manager in the world who would you choose? Then tell me which manager you would like, who we could realistically expect to see at WHL?
I am thinking along the lines of the Swansea manager and I didn't say I wanted Sherwood.
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Bring Harry Redknapp back or Jupp Heynckes...but thing he wan´t manage at the moment 8)
One person we don't want back at White Hart Lane and that is 'Arry Houdini pick a pocket or two Redknapp.
The one person you don't want back, you voice not we, you do not speak for everyone. You would rather let no experience Sherwood take over, after hypothetically doing well in two games than someone who had us playing the best football I have seen Spurs play in my lifetime. Brilliant, I can see your logic.
That being said, I do not think that we should have Harry back, I don't think it would create the right impression on the players. In my mind he shouldn't have been sacked. Levy's dangerous experiment has backfired.
I will get to Levy later.
But Voice please tell me that Sherwood isn't your number one option. If we could have any manager in the world who would you choose? Then tell me which manager you would like, who we could realistically expect to see at WHL?
Had Levy have given Harry the funds + the players that he gave AVB we definitely would not be in the position that we are in now, people keep saying that Redknapp took us as far as he could, sorry I think that is s**t, he took us as far as he could with the players and money he was allowed to spend, which was Jack-s**t. The one thing that Harry and his coaching team did, was to get the team playing as a unit, and playing attractive attacking football, which has been a trade-mark of Spurs ever since Billy Nick. Yes Harry wanted the England Job, but tell me what Englishman worth his SALT wouldn't want the opportunity to coach his National Team.
:) :) :)
Harry was such a good manager that when Levy sacked him all the top clubs in the world were falling over themselves to higher him. Now he is successfully running Real Madrid..... erm... sorry, QPR.
Would you trust your money with Harry? No! He was just a stop gap until Levy found somebody better. He was employed to get us out of a whole and was the only one available at the time.
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Lets not revisit very old ground and Arry yet again!
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Lets not revisit very old ground and Arry yet again!
I agree; he is now dead (as far as this club is concerned). We must look towards the future and pick a manager that will take us places. Whatever we thought of AVB he is now gone as well.
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Exactly no doubt speculation as to why AVB left will continue which is fair enough as its very recent.
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Exactly no doubt speculation as to why AVB left will continue which is fair enough as its very recent.
We also must remember that he left - according to Spurs machinery - on mutual consent. So it was not a one sided sacking as so many have said.
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Lets not revisit very old ground and Arry yet again!
I agree; he is now dead (as far as this club is concerned). We must look towards the future and pick a manager that will take us places. Whatever we thought of AVB he is now gone as well.
Sorry Voice but I am confused. You say ''We must look towards the future and pick a manager that will take us places'' which I completely agree with however you seem to contradict yourself by saying that you would welcome Hoddle back in charge! I think Capello might get the job in the summer because of his connection with Baldini and with his experience and success at club level. Not a popular choice for many but I think he would bring us success. However there is also a certain Dane in Wales that impresses me, we will have to wait and see.
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Its been reported initial enquires made regarding Frank De Boer, cant see him leaving Ajx TBH. He is the type of manager we want for me would like to see Michael Laudrup!
Tim Sherwood certainly showed passion yesterday, but I feel the quicker we get stability and a permanent manager put in place the better.
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Tim Sherwood started out with 4-4-2 and it was working with us going 1-0 up
and in control.
Why then, with only 1 substitution, left bring off the better striker
on the night and go back to a 4-5-1 formation leaving Defoe on his own?
Arguably it was to strengthen our midfield and hold onto a 1-0 lead.
A big mistake and along with West Ham's substitutions cost us dearly as it
has done in the past.
With little or no managerial experience Sherwood is not the man for me.
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Yiddite I would totally agree with you.
Surprised Levy has taken the action he has without a suitable replacement ready to step in, perhaps he think TS can do the job on the cheap!
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With little or no managerial experience Sherwood is not the man for me.
Couldn't agree with you more, Sherwood has the passion, but only some experience and not enough at that.
Hoddle is an absolute no-no, imo. too long out of management and Capello didn't do much for England. De Boer sounds a bit better as long as Berkamp doesn't come with him. We couldn't have a Gooner in our ranks, could we?
Anyway, I think Levy should take the job himself :lol: but he will probably appoint someone nobody has ever heard of!!
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Tim Sherwood started out with 4-4-2 and it was working with us going 1-0 up
and in control.
Why then, with only 1 substitution, left bring off the better striker
on the night and go back to a 4-5-1 formation leaving Defoe on his own?
Arguably it was to strengthen our midfield and hold onto a 1-0 lead.
A big mistake and along with West Ham's substitutions cost us dearly as it
has done in the past.
With little or no managerial experience Sherwood is not the man for me.
Spot on
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Lets not revisit very old ground and Arry yet again!
I agree; he is now dead (as far as this club is concerned). We must look towards the future and pick a manager that will take us places. Whatever we thought of AVB he is now gone as well.
Sorry Voice but I am confused. You say ''We must look towards the future and pick a manager that will take us places'' which I completely agree with however you seem to contradict yourself by saying that you would welcome Hoddle back in charge! I think Capello might get the job in the summer because of his connection with Baldini and with his experience and success at club level. Not a popular choice for many but I think he would bring us success. However there is also a certain Dane in Wales that impresses me, we will have to wait and see.
I can see what you mean about the confusion. For a start I would probably prefer Swansea's manager for the job. As for Hoddle; I am working on the assumption that he has matured and learnt from his mistakes. He is regarded very highly by other professionals' and managers. But I do accept that whoever we pick (even Hoddle) it will be a gamble. To be honest we just don't know. It could be a stupid comment suggesting Hoddle or an inspired idea. I just hope whoever Levy picks this time he gets it right. He hasn't got a good track-record in picking the right manager. Saying that I thought he jumped too quickly when sacking AVB.
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Frank De Boer as expected has said he is happy at Ajax.
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For me our ongoing problems were summed up perfectly on Wednesday night. 73% possession in the 1st half, and nothing to show for it.
A well taken goal by Adebayor, why has he not started before ffs. One can only blame AVB's personal differences for that, and for that fact alone then Levy was right to sack him IMO.
After that, it was the familiar old theme, no pressure on West Ham to cut out a cross into our box, and a failure of our CB's to deal with an aerial ball into the box, and bang bang 1-0 becomes 1-2. Rather like the game at Everton last year that cost us our Champions League place.
As Razor Ruddock pointed out yesterday, all Spurs need are 2 strikers and 2 CB's. He is not wrong, is he.
So, who is to blame. Well, if AVB is, then so is Levy and the board for sacking Redknapp and appointing him in the first place. But no matter who the manager is, its the 11 players on the pitch that win or lose games, and I fear that whether we play 442 4231 433 4132 or any other bloody combination, our current crop just are not good enough at this present time,
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Hoddle is an absolute no-no, imo. too long out of management and Capello didn't do much for England. De Boer sounds a bit better as long as Berkamp doesn't come with him. We couldn't have a Gooner in our ranks, could we?
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Berkamp is a legend - gooner or not- I would take him in a shot. He would improve our strikers without doubt.
I don't think he would come to the Lane though, but if he did we should welcome him with open arms.
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According to the latest reports 4 of the new players Spurs recently appointed AVB didn't want. If that is the case and Levy is playing manager - in the background - then whoever Tottenham sign will be over shadowed.
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Lets not revisit very old ground and Arry yet again!
I agree; he is now dead (as far as this club is concerned). We must look towards the future and pick a manager that will take us places. Whatever we thought of AVB he is now gone as well.
Sorry Voice but I am confused. You say ''We must look towards the future and pick a manager that will take us places'' which I completely agree with however you seem to contradict yourself by saying that you would welcome Hoddle back in charge! I think Capello might get the job in the summer because of his connection with Baldini and with his experience and success at club level. Not a popular choice for many but I think he would bring us success. However there is also a certain Dane in Wales that impresses me, we will have to wait and see.
I can see what you mean about the confusion. For a start I would probably prefer Swansea's manager for the job. As for Hoddle; I am working on the assumption that he has matured and learnt from his mistakes. He is regarded very highly by other professionals' and managers. But I do accept that whoever we pick (even Hoddle) it will be a gamble. To be honest we just don't know. It could be a stupid comment suggesting Hoddle or an inspired idea. I just hope whoever Levy picks this time he gets it right. He hasn't got a good track-record in picking the right manager. Saying that I thought he jumped too quickly when sacking AVB.
I have to agree with you with regard to AVBs sacking, a knee jerk reaction if you ask me. Strange thing is if a manager or a player or a groundsman fuc*s up they get the sack or sold on pretty sharpish but Joe Lewis obviously seems to think that Levy can do no wrong. I personally think that both Lewis and Levy need to go because they never spend any of their own money - all our transfers this summer were paid for by G.Bale and we actually made a profit because of all the other players sold by the club - for all his faults at least Abrahmovic @ Chelsea puts his hands in his pockets EVERY year to buy the best whilst ours just rubs his hands thinking of all the money he makes from selling on our star players for profit - good business strategy maybe - very bad football strategy. Levy obviously doesn't know how to pick a manager so I can't see the management situation being resolved as long as he is in charge.
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Lets not revisit very old ground and Arry yet again!
I agree; he is now dead (as far as this club is concerned). We must look towards the future and pick a manager that will take us places. Whatever we thought of AVB he is now gone as well.
Sorry Voice but I am confused. You say ''We must look towards the future and pick a manager that will take us places'' which I completely agree with however you seem to contradict yourself by saying that you would welcome Hoddle back in charge! I think Capello might get the job in the summer because of his connection with Baldini and with his experience and success at club level. Not a popular choice for many but I think he would bring us success. However there is also a certain Dane in Wales that impresses me, we will have to wait and see.
I can see what you mean about the confusion. For a start I would probably prefer Swansea's manager for the job. As for Hoddle; I am working on the assumption that he has matured and learnt from his mistakes. He is regarded very highly by other professionals' and managers. But I do accept that whoever we pick (even Hoddle) it will be a gamble. To be honest we just don't know. It could be a stupid comment suggesting Hoddle or an inspired idea. I just hope whoever Levy picks this time he gets it right. He hasn't got a good track-record in picking the right manager. Saying that I thought he jumped too quickly when sacking AVB.
I have to agree with you with regard to AVBs sacking, a knee jerk reaction if you ask me. Strange thing is if a manager or a player or a groundsman fuc*s up they get the sack or sold on pretty sharpish but Joe Lewis obviously seems to think that Levy can do no wrong. I personally think that both Lewis and Levy need to go because they never spend any of their own money - all our transfers this summer were paid for by G.Bale and we actually made a profit because of all the other players sold by the club - for all his faults at least Abrahmovic @ Chelsea puts his hands in his pockets EVERY year to buy the best whilst ours just rubs his hands thinking of all the money he makes from selling on our star players for profit - good business strategy maybe - very bad football strategy. Levy obviously doesn't know how to pick a manager so I can't see the management situation being resolved as long as he is in charge.
The trouble is you've got to be careful in asking for Levy/ Lewis to be removed as there is nobody waiting in the wings to take over. Levy and Lewis are a lot better than a lot of owners (just look what is happening at Cardiff). Yes, he has made some bad decision and as for his interference over managerial decisions; we've only got paper or one sided speculation. However, if he keeps producing blanks then the focus will nevertheless be focused on him and Lewis and their company. And I don't think they will want that.
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Lets not revisit very old ground and Arry yet again!
I agree; he is now dead (as far as this club is concerned). We must look towards the future and pick a manager that will take us places. Whatever we thought of AVB he is now gone as well.
Sorry Voice but I am confused. You say ''We must look towards the future and pick a manager that will take us places'' which I completely agree with however you seem to contradict yourself by saying that you would welcome Hoddle back in charge! I think Capello might get the job in the summer because of his connection with Baldini and with his experience and success at club level. Not a popular choice for many but I think he would bring us success. However there is also a certain Dane in Wales that impresses me, we will have to wait and see.
I can see what you mean about the confusion. For a start I would probably prefer Swansea's manager for the job. As for Hoddle; I am working on the assumption that he has matured and learnt from his mistakes. He is regarded very highly by other professionals' and managers. But I do accept that whoever we pick (even Hoddle) it will be a gamble. To be honest we just don't know. It could be a stupid comment suggesting Hoddle or an inspired idea. I just hope whoever Levy picks this time he gets it right. He hasn't got a good track-record in picking the right manager. Saying that I thought he jumped too quickly when sacking AVB.
I have to agree with you with regard to AVBs sacking, a knee jerk reaction if you ask me. Strange thing is if a manager or a player or a groundsman fuc*s up they get the sack or sold on pretty sharpish but Joe Lewis obviously seems to think that Levy can do no wrong. I personally think that both Lewis and Levy need to go because they never spend any of their own money - all our transfers this summer were paid for by G.Bale and we actually made a profit because of all the other players sold by the club - for all his faults at least Abrahmovic @ Chelsea puts his hands in his pockets EVERY year to buy the best whilst ours just rubs his hands thinking of all the money he makes from selling on our star players for profit - good business strategy maybe - very bad football strategy. Levy obviously doesn't know how to pick a manager so I can't see the management situation being resolved as long as he is in charge.
The trouble is you've got to be careful in asking for Levy/ Lewis to be removed as there is nobody waiting in the wings to take over. Levy and Lewis are a lot better than a lot of owners (just look what is happening at Cardiff). Yes, he has made some bad decision and as for his interference over managerial decisions; we've only got paper or one sided speculation. However, if he keeps producing blanks then the focus will nevertheless be focused on him and Lewis and their company. And I don't think they will want that.
Funnily enough I actually find myself agreeing with Voice (which is very unusal) just take a look around at Cardiff and Hull and look what state Liverpool where in a couple of years back because of their owners whims !!!
To be fair to Levy his only real major error has been sacking Redknapp, all his other managerial sackings have kind of been justified to some extent although some have been hard to accept at the time. It's true his track record for appointing managers isn't great but I do believe his heart is in the right place and when he does appoint I'm sure he is of the opinion that he is absolutely right to do so at the time.
His biggest problem is, like with many powerful people, his pride and he really doesn't like to have it dented in any way shape or form, I just hope this time round he can swallow his pride and go for the right man, and I wholely believe that that man is Glenn Hoddle.
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Glenn Hoddle in the footballing management wilderness since 2006.
How can you really believe Hoddle is the man to make things happen for us Ugs? great player yes, shocking manager going on previous evidence, bit la la going by previous comments made.
TBH I would rather see Capello at Spurs than Hoddle at east he has vast experience and managed at the highest level, as well as being an utter loon and unable to speak Englsih but for me he would still be ahead of Hoddle.
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After 2 games, what are peoples view so far of Sherwood, certainly picking attacking players.
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To be fair to Levy his only real major error has been sacking Redknapp, all his other managerial sackings have kind of been justified to some extent although some have been hard to accept at the time.
It is funny you should say that; I agree with you that all his previous managerial sackings have been justified, apart from AVB. I thought Harry was passed his sell buy date.
I will say this though; we are moving on from Harry and AVB so let us hope that with the next manager we both agree upon and can get behind him.
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Glenn Hoddle in the footballing management wilderness since 2006.
How can you really believe Hoddle is the man to make things happen for us Ugs? great player yes, shocking manager going on previous evidence, bit la la going by previous comments made.
TBH I would rather see Capello at Spurs than Hoddle at east he has vast experience and managed at the highest level, as well as being an utter loon and unable to speak Englsih but for me he would still be ahead of Hoddle.
Ok Metal heres my reasoning behind my thoughts on Hoddle
Hoddles Managerial Career
Swindon Town - when he took the job as player manager in 90/91 he stopped Swindon from being relegated into the third division and over the next two seasons got them promoted top the Premier League through the PlayOffs.
Chelsea - He left Swindon and joined Chelski and took them to the FA Cup Final in his first season but lost to Man Ure the year they did the double, the following year he took them to the Semis of the Cup Winners Cup losing to Real Zaragoza the eventual winners. He was also responsible for establishing them as a Premier League team and also attracting some top footballing names such as Ruud Gullitt.
England - He took England to the 98 World Cup and won Le Tournoi against Brazil and France shortly before the Finals. He also had a 60% win ratio the third highest of any England manager but alas he was sacked due to a misquoted interview on his religious beliefs.
Southampton - In 2000 he took over from Dave Jones and kept Southampton up under almost impossible circumstances but then left to come to Spurs.
Spurs - Daniel Levy's first appointment the saviour the man to make Spurs great again, unfortunately he inherited a pretty poor squad and had very little to work with due to the Goonasaurus Graham selling most of our flair players in favour of more workman like players. Enic were pretty tight back then as they worked to sort out the clubs finances and establish themselves and if you remember Hoddle's biggest signing was a certain Dean Richards who unlucky developed an illness that kept him out of the team and alas killed him a few years ago. He tried to play with a certain flare and style back then, a high tempo passing game (not unlike Swansea, Liverpool and Everton now) but the players under his charge were not quite up to it and eventually because success didn't happen quickly enough Levy did his usual hatchet job.
Wolves - He joined in 2004 and just missed out on the Play Offs twice with a pretty mediocre squad and very little investment and left in 2006 because he stated they needed to invest to improve and the club wouldn't back him.
In 2008 he opened the Glenn Hoddle Academy in spain and is still running that along with consulting for England.
So you see his mangerial career hasn't been 'Shocking' as you put it and I honestly believe with the players we now have and the fact that Hoddle himself feels he has unfinished business at Spurs is a match made in heaven. He was ahead of his time and given the chance this time I really think he could really do something at White Hart Lane and continue our improvement that was started by Jol and continued with Redknapp.
Finally he is a Spurs man and will work his nads off to get us to where us the supporters want to be !!
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Glenn Hoddle in the footballing management wilderness since 2006.
How can you really believe Hoddle is the man to make things happen for us Ugs? great player yes, shocking manager going on previous evidence, bit la la going by previous comments made.
TBH I would rather see Capello at Spurs than Hoddle at east he has vast experience and managed at the highest level, as well as being an utter loon and unable to speak Englsih but for me he would still be ahead of Hoddle.
Ok Metal heres my reasoning behind my thoughts on Hoddle
Hoddles Managerial Career
Swindon Town - when he took the job as player manager in 90/91 he stopped Swindon from being relegated into the third division and over the next two seasons got them promoted top the Premier League through the PlayOffs.
Chelsea - He left Swindon and joined Chelski and took them to the FA Cup Final in his first season but lost to Man Ure the year they did the double, the following year he took them to the Semis of the Cup Winners Cup losing to Real Zaragoza the eventual winners. He was also responsible for establishing them as a Premier League team and also attracting some top footballing names such as Ruud Gullitt.
England - He took England to the 98 World Cup and won Le Tournoi against Brazil and France shortly before the Finals. He also had a 60% win ratio the third highest of any England manager but alas he was sacked due to a misquoted interview on his religious beliefs.
Southampton - In 2000 he took over from Dave Jones and kept Southampton up under almost impossible circumstances but then left to come to Spurs.
Spurs - Daniel Levy's first appointment the saviour the man to make Spurs great again, unfortunately he inherited a pretty poor squad and had very little to work with due to the Goonasaurus Graham selling most of our flair players in favour of more workman like players. Enic were pretty tight back then as they worked to sort out the clubs finances and establish themselves and if you remember Hoddle's biggest signing was a certain Dean Richards who unlucky developed an illness that kept him out of the team and alas killed him a few years ago. He tried to play with a certain flare and style back then, a high tempo passing game (not unlike Swansea, Liverpool and Everton now) but the players under his charge were not quite up to it and eventually because success didn't happen quickly enough Levy did his usual hatchet job.
Wolves - He joined in 2004 and just missed out on the Play Offs twice with a pretty mediocre squad and very little investment and left in 2006 because he stated they needed to invest to improve and the club wouldn't back him.
In 2008 he opened the Glenn Hoddle Academy in spain and is still running that along with consulting for England.
So you see his mangerial career hasn't been 'Shocking' as you put it and I honestly believe with the players we now have and the fact that Hoddle himself feels he has unfinished business at Spurs is a match made in heaven. He was ahead of his time and given the chance this time I really think he could really do something at White Hart Lane and continue our improvement that was started by Jol and continued with Redknapp.
Finally he is a Spurs man and will work his nads off to get us to where us the supporters want to be !!
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Ugs my old mate, this is why I have missed you on this forum :up: points very well put Hoddle has done better than I thought with his managerial career when aspects put in perspective so thanks for the insight!
The only spanner again in the works is the gap from management for nearly 8 years and the England consultancy aspect as we are shocking but that isnt down to Hoddle.
I agree he would feel he has unfinished business and was a legend for us, TBH I was gutted he was sacked from England as I actually could see us as WC challengers had Hoddle stayed.
I will settle that Hoddle is a candidate worth considering after reading your points, however IMO he isnt first choice but perhaps we could do a lot worse!
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Glenn Hoddle in the footballing management wilderness since 2006.
How can you really believe Hoddle is the man to make things happen for us Ugs? great player yes, shocking manager going on previous evidence, bit la la going by previous comments made.
TBH I would rather see Capello at Spurs than Hoddle at east he has vast experience and managed at the highest level, as well as being an utter loon and unable to speak Englsih but for me he would still be ahead of Hoddle.
Ok Metal heres my reasoning behind my thoughts on Hoddle
Hoddles Managerial Career
Swindon Town - when he took the job as player manager in 90/91 he stopped Swindon from being relegated into the third division and over the next two seasons got them promoted top the Premier League through the PlayOffs.
Chelsea - He left Swindon and joined Chelski and took them to the FA Cup Final in his first season but lost to Man Ure the year they did the double, the following year he took them to the Semis of the Cup Winners Cup losing to Real Zaragoza the eventual winners. He was also responsible for establishing them as a Premier League team and also attracting some top footballing names such as Ruud Gullitt.
England - He took England to the 98 World Cup and won Le Tournoi against Brazil and France shortly before the Finals. He also had a 60% win ratio the third highest of any England manager but alas he was sacked due to a misquoted interview on his religious beliefs.
Southampton - In 2000 he took over from Dave Jones and kept Southampton up under almost impossible circumstances but then left to come to Spurs.
Spurs - Daniel Levy's first appointment the saviour the man to make Spurs great again, unfortunately he inherited a pretty poor squad and had very little to work with due to the Goonasaurus Graham selling most of our flair players in favour of more workman like players. Enic were pretty tight back then as they worked to sort out the clubs finances and establish themselves and if you remember Hoddle's biggest signing was a certain Dean Richards who unlucky developed an illness that kept him out of the team and alas killed him a few years ago. He tried to play with a certain flare and style back then, a high tempo passing game (not unlike Swansea, Liverpool and Everton now) but the players under his charge were not quite up to it and eventually because success didn't happen quickly enough Levy did his usual hatchet job.
Wolves - He joined in 2004 and just missed out on the Play Offs twice with a pretty mediocre squad and very little investment and left in 2006 because he stated they needed to invest to improve and the club wouldn't back him.
In 2008 he opened the Glenn Hoddle Academy in spain and is still running that along with consulting for England.
So you see his mangerial career hasn't been 'Shocking' as you put it and I honestly believe with the players we now have and the fact that Hoddle himself feels he has unfinished business at Spurs is a match made in heaven. He was ahead of his time and given the chance this time I really think he could really do something at White Hart Lane and continue our improvement that was started by Jol and continued with Redknapp.
Finally he is a Spurs man and will work his nads off to get us to where us the supporters want to be !!
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Ugs my old mate, this is why I have missed you on this forum :up: points very well put Hoddle has done better than I thought with his managerial career when aspects put in perspective so thanks for the insight!
The only spanner again in the works is the gap from management for nearly 8 years and the England consultancy aspect as we are shocking but that isnt down to Hoddle.
I agree he would feel he has unfinished business and was a legend for us, TBH I was gutted he was sacked from England as I actually could see us as WC challengers had Hoddle stayed.
I will settle that Hoddle is a candidate worth considering after reading your points, however IMO he isnt first choice but perhaps we could do a lot worse!
Thanks Metal I appreciate your honesty and yes you are right there has been a long gap in his managerial career but he was on TalkSport Breakfast this morning and he was asked about this and has actually been coaching for most of the 8 years at his academy.
He spoke very passionately this morning and said that he would come in to the end of the season if Levy wanted him to, in fact he said he would do anything the club asked of him and would love the chance to manage us once again. He was at Spurs as a player for 22 years and said we are the only club he would do anything for because we are part of him as far as I'm concerned if Levy puts him in charge and backs him I think we will do very well and become a permanent member of the Premier Leagues top teams !!!
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He clearly has the passion for our club, I still have slight reservations but even today's young players know the player that Glenn Hoddle was in that in itself would probably command confidence and respect.
I think Levy is looking at how TS pans out, I think Levy would be daft not to art least consider Hoddle as an option though.
See my view point has changed!
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Sorry but hoddle should not be considered . His man management has been questioned by too many players (beckham during the 1998 world cup being the most notable ) and he bought some terrible players to spurs . He was without doubt the most talented player spurs ever produced but was a terrible manager .
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Sorry but hoddle should not be considered . His man management has been questioned by too many players (beckham during the 1998 world cup being the most notable ) and he bought some terrible players to spurs . He was without doubt the most talented player spurs ever produced but was a terrible manager .
If Sherwood continues winning then it would be very hard to dislodge him.
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I have reservations about Hoddle as a manager, but I think he could do a job for us even if it was on a temporary basis. I don't think Tim Sherwood has a hope in hell of being given the job full time, Clubs with aspirations of playing in The Champions League don't appoint Managers with no experience whatsoever, his tenure will last until they find the right man no matter what his results are. All the top guys are in jobs, some maybe twiddling their thumbs waiting for the World Cup, but we wouldn't take somebody part-time. After the WC lots of top Managers will become available, that will be the time to have a good look. Until then Hoddle may well get the nod, they can have a look at what he does see how he fits, if they are not happy he wont get a contract, if he does well he could be offered the job on a more permanent basis. Time will tell I guess.
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I remember a former player who played at THFC under Hoddle saying that Hoddle always tried to prove he was still the best player at the club in training and belittled alot of players, I cant remember who said it though.
Either way Hoddle is an option and it wouldnt surprise me if Levy was looking at him however the cost effective solution is to see how TS gets on, so far not too bad.
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One thing that we should all remember at this point is that after the match against Southampton we currently sit 6 points behind the League leaders in a league season where no one team is outstanding.... so far.
It would be very poor Chairmanship by Mr Levy to appoint a manager that does not have a proven track record and the potential to 'hit the ground running', at this moment in time as there is still a chance that if the right man comes in and the club gets the new manager bounce we may just get back in the race. For this reason I don't think Sherwood will be given the managers job due to his lack of experience in another season that isn't so tight then maybe, for this reason I can see Hoddle being given the job due to his standing in Spurs fans hearts and the potential feel good 'bounce' that will occur from his appointment !!
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Aaand it's time to congratulate Mr Sherwood and close this thread.