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Re: Has Spurs got any World Class Players?
« Reply #15 on: September 03, 2010, 03:04:04 PM »
But ugs certainly that could be implied to Messi? Yet he is known as the world's best footballer last season.



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Re: Has Spurs got any World Class Players?
« Reply #16 on: September 03, 2010, 03:47:21 PM »
But ugs certainly that could be implied to Messi? Yet he is known as the world's best footballer last season.

Very true but I think as someone said earlier you need to look at their whole career and to be fair I thought he was one of the best players at this years World Cup even though he didn't score !!
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Re: Has Spurs got any World Class Players?
« Reply #17 on: September 03, 2010, 03:53:51 PM »
I cant find a more up to date list than 2008 ......but here is 442's idea of world class.

Maybe its not the full 100 than can slot into the catagory of world class.........maybe the first 40 (or top two teams as already mentioned)

Dunno if the list helps but here it is..........(Huntlaar at 100 wtf? lol) ....if anyone can find the up to date one it would be interesting to see it. .....oh and Im sure Frank Lampard was a typo lmao

1. Christiano Ronaldo - Manchester United
2. Lionel Messi - Barcelona
3. Fernando Torres - Liverpool
4. Iker Casillas - Real Madrid
5. Kaka - AC Milan
6. David Villa - Valencia
7. Zlatan Ibrahimovic - Inter Milan
8. Sergio Aguero - Athletico Madrid
9. Rio Ferdinand - Manchester United
10. Steven Gerrard - Liverpool
11. Xavi Hernandez - Barcelona
12. Cesc Fabregas - Ars*nal
13. Frank Lampard - Chelsea
14. Ruud Van Nistelrooy - Real Madrid
15. Emmanuel Adebayor - Ars*nal
16. Didier Drogba - Chelsea
17. Frank Ribery - Bayern Munich
18. Michael Ballack - Chelsea
19. Guianlugi Buffon - Juventus
20. Sergio Ramos - Real Madrid
21. Wesley Sneijder - Real Madrid
22. Michael Essien - Chelsea
23. Daniel Alves - Barcelona
24. Wayne Rooney - Manchester United
25. Ricardo Carvalho - Chelsea
26. Maicon - Inter Milan
27. Andres Iniesta - Barcelona
28. Andrei Arshavin - Zenit Saint Petersburg
29. Deco - Chelsea
30. Marcos Senna - Villareal
31. Luis Fabiano - Sevilla
32. John Terry - Chelsea
33. Daniele De Rossi - AS Roma
34. Nemanja Vidic - Manchester United
35. Javier Mascherano - Liverpool
36. Samuel Eto'o - Barcelona
37. Dimitar Berbatov - Manchester United
38. David Silva - Valencia
39. Nihat Kahveci - Villareal
40. Patrice Evra - Manchester United
41. Anatoily Tymoshchuk - Zenit Saint Petersburg
42. Robinho - Manchester City
43. Esteban Cambiasso - Inter Milan
44. Ashley Cole - Chelsea
45. Alessandro Del Piero - Juventus
46. Seydou Keita - Barcelona
47. Jose Bosingwa - Chelsea
48. Carlos Tevez - Manchester United
49. Joe Cole - Chelsea
50. Yuri Zhirkov - CSKA Moscow
51. Arjen Robben - Real Madrid
52. Artur Boruc - Celtic
53. Petr Cech - Chelsea
54. Francesco Totti - AS Roma
55. Luca Toni - Bayern Munich
56. Raul - Real Madrid
57. Thierry Henry - Barcelona
58. Christian Chivu - Inter Milan
59. Alessandro Nesta - AC Milan
60. Rafael van der Vaart - Real Madrid
61. Pepe - Real Madrid
62. Luca Modric - Tottenham Hotspur
63. Karim Benzema - Lyon
64. Roque Santa Cruz - Blackburn Rovers
65. Mahamadou - Real Madrid
66. Philipp Lahm - Bayern Munich
67. Andrea Pirlo - AC Milan
68. Diego Forlan - Athletico Madrid
69. Santi Cazorta - Villareal
70. Ronaldinho - AC Milan
71. Dariho Srna - Shakhtar Donetsk
72. Fabio Cannavaro - Real Madrid
73. Juninho Pernambucano - Lyon
74. Mauro Camoranesi - Juventus
75. David Trezeguet - Juventus
76. Miroslav Klose - Bayern Munich
77. Gael Clichy - Ars*nal
78. Fredi Kanoute - Sevilla
79. Antonio Di Natale - Udinese
80. Javier Zanetti - Inter Milan
81. Robert Pires - Villareal
82. Christian Poulsen - Juventus
83. Diego - Werder Bremen
84. Mancini - Inter Milan
85. Giorgo Chiellini - Juventus
86. Gonzalo Higuain - Real Madrid
87. Gianluca Zambrotta - AC Milan
88. Bacary Sagna - Ars*nal
89. Danny - Zenit Saint Petersburg
90. John Obi Mikel - Chelsea
91. Goran Pandev - Lazio
92. Igor Akinfeev - CSKA Moscow
93. Simao Sabrosa - Athletico Madrid
94. Amauri - Juventus
95. Paul Scholes - Manchester United
96. Lassana Diarra - Portsmouth
97. Diego Capel - Sevilla
98. Antonio Cassano - Sampdoria
99. Bastian Schweinsteiger - Bayern Munich
100. Klaas-Jan Hunterlaar - Ajax
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Re: Has Spurs got any World Class Players?
« Reply #18 on: September 03, 2010, 05:04:25 PM »
I wonder what number the first spurs player would be?

I think the best way to judge whether we have world class players is whether they attract interest from the top european teams. By that standard, Bale is there, and probably Modric too. Someone like Bentley attracts interest from Fulham - which says it all...

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Re: Has Spurs got any World Class Players?
« Reply #19 on: September 03, 2010, 09:36:09 PM »
60. Rafael van der Vaart - Real Madrid
61. Pepe - Real Madrid
62. Luca Modric - Tottenham Hotspur


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Re: Has Spurs got any World Class Players?
« Reply #20 on: September 03, 2010, 09:59:52 PM »
Sorry that list doesn't add up for me =p the simple fact that John Terry outranks Cashley is beyond me.  2 Years ago, I honestly think (as difficult as it is to say) Cashley was outright the best left back in the world....any team would have had him in their first 11.  I don't think I've ever been able to even contemplate saying the same about John Terry.

There are players in that list lower than "JT" that he couldn't hold a candle to on his best day!  (Can you tell I'm not a fan??!!)
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Re: Has Spurs got any World Class Players?
« Reply #21 on: September 03, 2010, 10:11:45 PM »
True~ Very true~ although i gotta say JT was awesome during Mourinho's era at chelskum. I think his value went up since then. Although right now you can say his stocks are rapidly falling haha!



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« Reply #22 on: September 03, 2010, 10:31:46 PM »
There are more floors in that list than the sears tower to be honest.

I reckon we have a few players that fit the category of world class .....although not the best in the world they could hold their own in a world class game. Maybe coming off the bench.

After tonight I reckon defoe wouldnt do too badly for a half, Modric would get 45 mins, lennon also 45 mins, King if he were not impaired would have been possibly the best CB in the world, Bale is 45 mins worth at the least, Gomes 40 mins.......Keane at his best a few years back would have held his own for 20 mins or so.

To clarify .....thats if the messi's and kaka's etc were taken off injured.

I suppose that means ..............no then.......when you really whittle it down .......we have no ....outstanding bang on, out and out... World class players

Van der Vaart ....may change all that.....fingers crossed.









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Re: Has Spurs got any World Class Players?
« Reply #23 on: September 04, 2010, 12:47:25 PM »

Drogba, Essian are the only two in the EPL for me. There are many other great pleayers kicking about but World Class.....don't think so.

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What about Rooney, Torres, Fabregas, Reina, A.Cole and Evra..... all are world class if you ask me!
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Re: Has Spurs got any World Class Players?
« Reply #24 on: September 04, 2010, 08:47:17 PM »

Drogba, Essian are the only two in the EPL for me. There are many other great pleayers kicking about but World Class.....don't think so.

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What about Rooney, Torres, Fabregas, Reina, A.Cole and Evra..... all are world class if you ask me!

 
Evra- Tragic, totally all at sea for the poor Frenchies at world cup, including getting skinned for a couple of goals really badly.
 
Rooney, please! Great player, hard worker etc etc but has not world class, thats all just an English media thing.
 
Torres, tough call because on his day he is brilliant so i am going to give you that one, even though at international level Villa has proved over and over again to be world class.....not so much the Torres yet.
 
Reina, great keeper but not close to being world class for me
 
A Hole, Ripped a new one on a few occasions for England during world cup, including getting caught a few times by simple balls played inside him. Attacking full back I say great, pace at back great but would i ever have a good word to say about the prick....no  :lol:
 
Fabregas, In the spain team....no. World class.....no. Perhaps being harsh as he is up against two of the best midfielders in the world but tough he's a goon so no he isnt getting in either!
 
As you can see i am biased as f*ck but the real thing for me is my World Class Definition is Platini, Zidane, Matthaus, Messi, Maradona etc etc the next level down of great players would have way too many to bother categorising.
 
Just my simple thoughts so no problem we disagree, healthy debate  :up:

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« Reply #25 on: September 05, 2010, 03:15:29 PM »

Drogba, Essian are the only two in the EPL for me. There are many other great pleayers kicking about but World Class.....don't think so.

** It should be noted i have been wrong many times in the past

What about Rooney, Torres, Fabregas, Reina, A.Cole and Evra..... all are world class if you ask me!

 
Evra- Tragic, totally all at sea for the poor Frenchies at world cup, including getting skinned for a couple of goals really badly.
 
Rooney, please! Great player, hard worker etc etc but has not world class, thats all just an English media thing.
 
Torres, tough call because on his day he is brilliant so i am going to give you that one, even though at international level Villa has proved over and over again to be world class.....not so much the Torres yet.
 
Reina, great keeper but not close to being world class for me
 
A Hole, Ripped a new one on a few occasions for England during world cup, including getting caught a few times by simple balls played inside him. Attacking full back I say great, pace at back great but would i ever have a good word to say about the prick....no  :lol:
 
Fabregas, In the spain team....no. World class.....no. Perhaps being harsh as he is up against two of the best midfielders in the world but tough he's a goon so no he isnt getting in either!
 
As you can see i am biased as f*ck but the real thing for me is my World Class Definition is Platini, Zidane, Matthaus, Messi, Maradona etc etc the next level down of great players would have way too many to bother categorising.
 
Just my simple thoughts so no problem we disagree, healthy debate  :up:

Fair enough mate  :up:  i see your opinions on those players i named. I still however disagree with your thoughts on Evra, Rooney and Fabregas, all are fantastic players and i'd say they are in the category of World Class as they play their trade in what i think is the toughest league in the world.
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Re: Has Spurs got any World Class Players?
« Reply #26 on: December 03, 2012, 08:57:08 PM »
Is it important for any club to have world class players? What is important, and I would rather have, is a team that knitted together and worked together. Alf Ramsey did it and won the league with unknowns. Granted it was in a different era.

I would rather see a team that worked well together of unknowns that a team of well-known international players who couldn’t work together. I remember going and seeing Spurs when they had Gascoigne in the side. When he was playing we did well, but as soon as he was out we collapsed. I know we are in a time of celebrity footballers and it is part and parcel of football today but I still would prefer a team work. After all football is about the whole and not the singular.
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« Reply #27 on: December 03, 2012, 09:15:05 PM »
I have just read posts for people I have never seen before. I know there are 1000's of members on SN and I realise  that people come and go, but it would be nice to hear comments from differentt supporters, in addition the faithful few we know about. So , let's hear from you guys!

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« Reply #28 on: December 03, 2012, 10:12:41 PM »
Wow reading that was like seeing lost old friends, what has happened to Millers, Dedleysting and CountPuchi (who sent me the template for my THFC tattoo) would be great to hear from these supporters and have them post again.

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« Reply #29 on: December 04, 2012, 04:47:26 PM »
Wow reading that was like seeing lost old friends, what has happened to Millers, Dedleysting and CountPuchi (who sent me the template for my THFC tattoo) would be great to hear from these supporters and have them post again.

If my suggestion is taken up then they could all be rushing back to a home reunion. Of course subtracting those that turned into Ars*nal supporters, dead, lost interest or joined a forum that has spiritual connections with Danny Blanchflower.  :up:
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