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Tottenham Discussion => Spurs Chat => Topic started by: Glenn R on August 30, 2015, 12:14:27 PM
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In some quarters the criticism has come out against Spurs, but are they just? Granted we are misfiring up front, but what about our defensive record this season? It was our defensive record last season that did it for us.
But let us look at this season (so far). United and City have conceded no goals. Ars*nal, Liverpool and Swansea have conceded 3 goals. Based on that, Spurs would be joint 6th (with a few other clubs) in the defensive league. Considering that we scored one of those goals, then that would puts us on the par with Ars*nal, Liverpool and Swansea. And with Swansea and United playing today, we could go further up the defensive league. On what we’ve seen so far Pochettino - where the defence is concerned, has done a good job. This leaves our scoring record. I’ve noticed today that Pochettino has said that “once we have our full squad at our disposals then things will be different”. Whichever way one looks at it I don’t think there is anything to worry about at this precise time in the football calendar. But maybe you disagree?
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We haven't faced any "scoring" teams yet. Yet, I agree, it's early and big guns (besides Manchester City) haven't set the world alight either. Four games and zero wins, of course, is a concern, but I suppose the louder calls for Pochettino's head will start sounding if we don't get wins against Sunderland and Palace.
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RiffHard, do you mean the team that beat Chelsea, at Stamford Bridge 2-1? That Palace? Is there any teams in today's league that could be considered pushovers? I agree it is early days and if we don't score we could fall further behind. With the Window nearly closed I am hoping that we purchase other players and really be a force in the premier league. Chelsea and Liverpool slipping up can only be good news for the rest of the Premier League.
I disagree that City hasn't set the league alight. They played a brilliant game against Chelsea and deserved to win. Unless things dramatically change I've got them down to win, come the end of the season, what all teams fight are fighting for.
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RiffHard, do you mean the team that beat Chelsea, at Stamford Bridge 2-1? That Palace? Is there any teams in today's league that could be considered pushovers? I agree it is early days and if we don't score we could fall further behind. With the Window nearly closed I am hoping that we purchase other players and really be a force in the premier league. Chelsea and Liverpool slipping up can only be good news for the rest of the Premier League.
I disagree that City hasn't set the league alight. They played a brilliant game against Chelsea and deserved to win. Unless things dramatically change I've got them down to win, come the end of the season, what all teams fight are fighting for.
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I actually meant 'except Manchester City'. English is not my first language and has become rusty recently.
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As things stand at the moment I think City will win the league. It would be nice to say that Spurs would be second, but fourth, at the moment, would be great.
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Aaaand Swansea just beat Manchester United for the third time in a row. So, after gameday 4 the top 4 looks like this:
1. Manchester City 12
2. Crystal Palace 9
3. Leicester City 8
4. Swansea City 8
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Time to praise will come after Erikson's return and our new signing have played a few games. ie: Njie & Son particularly and this will happen soon. Our defense is showing signs of improvement. So I can't see to much to worry about yet!
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Aaaand Swansea just beat Manchester United for the third time in a row. So, after gameday 4 the top 4 looks like this:
1. Manchester City 12
2. Crystal Palace 9
3. Leicester City 8
4. Swansea City 8
I believe that City can win the title. They are good enough. As for Palace, Leicester and Swansea; it will drop off for them and out of those three I think Leicester will have a fight on their hands. Swansea will do reasonably well and I've been impressed with Palace since Pardew took over.
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Chelsea will bounce back, but then it would be a straight fight between City and Chelsea. The others will have to fight for the next two spots. But I do agree it all depends on how quickly the manager can mould his team to challenge for titles.
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I think C Palace will do well, just hope they don't do well against us.
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Oh well another window closes as usual Tottenham linked with every possible striker net result nothing!
We now have Harry Kane to play week in week out what happens when he gets injured?
Tottenham are now just an average prem team with no hope of breaking into the top 4.
4 games 3 points not good enough early doors will it get better guess we will get 3 points at Sunderland and everyone will think we are ok.
Make no mistakes we are in for a hard slog this season and I believe looking for a new manager before the season ends or after it ends :'(
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Oh well another window closes as usual Tottenham linked with every possible striker net result nothing!
We now have Harry Kane to play week in week out what happens when he gets injured?
Tottenham are now just an average prem team with no hope of breaking into the top 4.
I have been told to believe that Njie is a striker, not a winger and that Son can also play in that position!
As Lamella is now staying, he can also play up front imo
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Oh well another window closes as usual Tottenham linked with every possible striker net result nothing!
We now have Harry Kane to play week in week out what happens when he gets injured?
Tottenham are now just an average prem team with no hope of breaking into the top 4.
I have been told to believe that Njie is a striker, not a winger and that Son can also play in that position!
As Lamella is now staying, he can also play up front imo
Lamela played up front during the pre-season and was quite hopeless. And as Levy didn't manage to get rid of Adebayor, we still have him to use... :hide:
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Oh well another window closes as usual Tottenham linked with every possible striker net result nothing!
We now have Harry Kane to play week in week out what happens when he gets injured?
Tottenham are now just an average prem team with no hope of breaking into the top 4.
4 games 3 points not good enough early doors will it get better guess we will get 3 points at Sunderland and everyone will think we are ok.
Make no mistakes we are in for a hard slog this season and I believe looking for a new manager before the season ends or after it ends :'(
We do have young strikers (like Carroll) and if they are given their chance (like Kane had), well, you never know. :hide:
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Oh well another window closes as usual Tottenham linked with every possible striker net result nothing!
We now have Harry Kane to play week in week out what happens when he gets injured?
Tottenham are now just an average prem team with no hope of breaking into the top 4.
I have been told to believe that Njie is a striker, not a winger and that Son can also play in that position!
As Lamella is now staying, he can also play up front imo
Lamela played up front during the pre-season and was quite hopeless. And as Levy didn't manage to get rid of Adebayor, we still have him to use... :hide:
I don't think you can read too much into preseason; nobody wants to give their full potential in such friendlies in fear of injury.
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Well from the comments above from everyone looks like we are in a for a good season lads!
Nothing to worry about
I Admire your optimism
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Oh well another window closes as usual Tottenham linked with every possible striker net result nothing!
We now have Harry Kane to play week in week out what happens when he gets injured?
Tottenham are now just an average prem team with no hope of breaking into the top 4.
4 games 3 points not good enough early doors will it get better guess we will get 3 points at Sunderland and everyone will think we are ok.
Make no mistakes we are in for a hard slog this season and I believe looking for a new manager before the season ends or after it ends :'(
We do have young strikers (like Carroll) and if they are given their chance (like Kane had), well, you never know. :hide:
Tom Carroll is a midfielder, not a striker. Far from it...
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Well from the comments above from everyone looks like we are in a for a good season lads!
Nothing to worry about
I Admire your optimism
To be honest I am not sure what we are in for. Spurs need good and strong squad to compete at the top end of the Premier league and I am not quite sure what we've got. Let us hope whatever we've got is good for us.
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Striker? How about Dele Ali....?
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Oh well another window closes as usual Tottenham linked with every possible striker net result nothing!
We now have Harry Kane to play week in week out what happens when he gets injured?
Tottenham are now just an average prem team with no hope of breaking into the top 4.
4 games 3 points not good enough early doors will it get better guess we will get 3 points at Sunderland and everyone will think we are ok.
Make no mistakes we are in for a hard slog this season and I believe looking for a new manager before the season ends or after it ends :'(
We do have young strikers (like Carroll) and if they are given their chance (like Kane had), well, you never know. :hide:
Tom Carroll is a midfielder, not a striker. Far from it...
You are correct, I was actually thinking of somebody else.
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Striker? How about Dele Ali....?
I think he is going to be a great player for the club. He plays just behind the striker and works hard.
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I like Ali, he is a great young player. :up:
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I always thought Carol was a midfielder! and he is not in the same league as Kane, Lamela has been the worst buy since Rebrov. The clubs ideals are right in building a young team and the two latest signings fit right into that mold so if we can integrate them into the first team quickly we may start getting the right results, We pass the ball well and are keeping the lions share of possession so its now a question of having the right players in the right positions and giving them the service, my main concern is our lack of urgency, Poch style is the slow patient way and this so NOT the Spurs way we are used to or like!, its NOT attractive and has many floors!, to be able to pay the slow way you MUST have a TEAM of players who are very comfortable with the ball when surrounded by the opposing team! you need a Silva, Fabregas, Messi etc, yes we have Erikksen but we need two or three of them! you need to keep the ball moving with quick short one touch pass and move combinations! dare I say the A word style!, when like we are at present we go side to side and backward, play one up front who is starved of service and when we do finally go forward after 30 passes we squander possession as there is not enough attacking players in the forward area for us to be effective :'( . back in the day of Rednapp we where lightning on the counter and had many good players that could punish teams, us the fans where rowdy as we had the belief we could play good football, we are nowhere near that now :-[ as we have chopped and changed so many things we are a shadow of our former team and NOWHERE NEAR 4TH.
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Spot on Blackjack !!!7
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Lamela is a good player and very skilled. The problem he has is adjusting to our league. He can easily be dispossessed from the ball. I don't know if Pochettino can solve this. Our league is much rougher.
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Lamela was a bad buy and never worth the price we paid!, he has had enough chances now, if it hasnt happened by now it never will for him! whether it be nerves, condition, or simply just not physically capable of handling the EPL he has really let himself down, he should have gone in the latest transfer window so now we are stuck with him again, Voice I admire your faith in him but seriously dude how much longer are you prepared to say he is that good?
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Lamela was a bad buy and never worth the price we paid!, he has had enough chances now, if it hasnt happened by now it never will for him! whether it be nerves, condition, or simply just not physically capable of handling the EPL he has really let himself down, he should have gone in the latest transfer window so now we are stuck with him again, Voice I admire your faith in him but seriously dude how much longer are you prepared to say he is that good?
We bought Lamela because he was regarded as a very good player. I can’t remember their name, but there is a European team that tried to purchase him and still wants him. I did say that he has a problem with our league, but that doesn’t make him a bad player overnight. Look at Soldado. You would say he was a bad buy, but he scored well before we bought him, and is scoring well now. Granted we have a problem, but what is that problem? Our league, our training methods or is he too skilful for our league?
PS I am only going by the facts.
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I think Lamela thinks he is better than he really is! Soldado yes was great before and is again now and fair play to him for getting his career back on track, we never played him to his true position!, Lamela on the other hand is neither a winger or striker really and his record before us wasnt amazing he had one average season for Roma and we somehow got sucked in, me included at the start was thinking he was going to be our RVP! but EVERY GAME he has played he has been very average at best, yes he scored that wonder goal in the Europa league but apart from that he was on the fringe of the game! If and when he finally leaves it will be interesting to see how he does! if he goes on like Soldado il hold my hand up and admit im wrong but I personally just cannot see it bud.
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I think Lamela thinks he is better than he really is! Soldado yes was great before and is again now and fair play to him for getting his career back on track, we never played him to his true position!, Lamela on the other hand is neither a winger or striker really and his record before us wasnt amazing he had one average season for Roma and we somehow got sucked in, me included at the start was thinking he was going to be our RVP! but EVERY GAME he has played he has been very average at best, yes he scored that wonder goal in the Europa league but apart from that he was on the fringe of the game! If and when he finally leaves it will be interesting to see how he does! if he goes on like Soldado il hold my hand up and admit im wrong but I personally just cannot see it bud.
We certainly haven't missed Soldado, and we wouldn't miss Lamela. Who we do miss are Modric, Van Der Vart and Bale.
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There is still time for Lamela to prove himself in this league. Against him; there are many players fighting for his position and he could fall down the pecking order.
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Howdy,
Why don't clubs have players on trial and if they like the jib of his collar then purchase him. That way everybody wins. He is with a club that he likes and we've got a player that can play to our standards. You don't buy a car without first trying it out.
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Yeah you not wrong, Modric pulling the strings, Bale with his pace and goals VDV just everything apart from the hamstrings lol, even Robbie Keane!
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We should never have sold Modric, he would have been a important part to the team, even now.