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Tottenham Discussion => Spurs Chat => Topic started by: Shameus on March 04, 2011, 06:03:12 PM
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If the NDP gets back underway as many many of us hope, why not groundshare with Woolich in the meanwhile? It would allow us an immediate 60,000 seat stadium while awaiting the new Lane. And don't forget it wouldn't be the first time as I believe we shared WHL with them during WW2 when Highbury was used as a dump (ha ha) for something or other! :nods:
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Come on Dedley it's been done before. I was a staunch Lane stayer (the alternative was the ultimate all time defeat by them). We could do this - think about it - and they would f**king hate it big time!!
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Hmmm tricky one.....
We would of course be open to much slatting if that happened from the Goons but we can handle that!
It would involve us paying the Goons rental I guess...... that leaves a bad taste but is fair enough.
Capacity would boost our ticket sales but as short term surley season tickets would not increase???
We would be playing what is classed as our home games with the bloody Gooner Canon and colours everywhere.
It would mean the Yid Army would invade Woolich regulary 8D
Our players would be regulary taking a dump in the home dressing room :dance: I would be tempted to leave some floating if it were me!
It would mean WHL being redeveloped and we stay local and in a decent stadium.
I say why not if the deal is right for us then yes!
It would piss them of more than us as when we have our stadium revamped we would go home having used their facilities to our advantage for our purpose of moving forward.
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i remember when alll the re development talk first came about.
There was talk about using Wembley or Ground Share with MK Dons
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If the NDP gets back underway as many many of us hope, why not groundshare with Woolich in the meanwhile? It would allow us an immediate 60,000 seat stadium while awaiting the new Lane. And don't forget it wouldn't be the first time as I believe we shared WHL with them during WW2 when Highbury was used as a dump (ha ha) for something or other! :nods:
I believed that when the emirates was being built we should have considered a permanent ground share, but it's to late now. I would have had no problem sharing a stadium with them that had never belonged to either club.
It's a strange question now though. If we redevelop WHL or move then there will be no need to ground share unless you really believe we are that desperate for a bigger stadium, which I don't.
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Come on Dedley it's been done before. I was a staunch Lane stayer (the alternative was the ultimate all time defeat by them). We could do this - think about it - and they would f**king hate it big time!!
That maybe true mate, I just really dislike the idea of ground sharing with those gooners. Obviously if it was a last resort then whatever....but I think in my opinion ground sharing WILL be the last resort.
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What about Wembley? The FA would rental income and will it not be our second home soon :dance: Interestingly, I just checked with MultiMap and its 11.8 miles (28 minutes) from WHL and guess what, the Olympic Stadium that thankfully we won't be getting is showing as exactly the same in sistance 11.8 miles (but 27 minutes) - interesting thought! Good parking and easy access with good travel links. And we wont be coming out of the tunnel to a red and white stadium if we shared with Woolwich!
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I think if you look at the original plans the intention was to build 3/4 of the new ground whilst we still played at the lane. Then move into the unfinished new stadium for a season as the old one was demolished and the remainder of the new completed. It may have been a mess but it meant we didn't have to share with anybody. However should that need arise my preference would be Watford as is not far away has decent transport links and Watford haven't offended anybody in living memory.
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But at Wembley (or Emirates - as much as the thoughtsticks in my throat), we could sell the remaining 26000 season tickets, almost doubling gate receipts meaning more wonga for bringing in the more talented players we need if we are to fight at the very top. :dance:
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I think Wembley has an agreement with local residents that the stadium will only be used a certain amount of times each year and to have a club playing a regular seasons worth of games would far exceed this arrangement. I think a similar deal is in place at Twickenham and is even more inhibiting to the RFU
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But at Wembley (or Emirates - as much as the thoughtsticks in my throat), we could sell the remaining 26000 season tickets, almost doubling gate receipts meaning more wonga for bringing in the more talented players we need if we are to fight at the very top. :dance:
Yup. That was my original point. We want to double gate receipts? Do it immediately, not waiting for years til the new ground's built.
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Bang on shameus! My point exactly. Seems that it gets us where we want to be quicker than waiting for the new ground to be built.............somewhere :D
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What about Wembley? The FA would rental income and will it not be our second home soon :dance: Interestingly, I just checked with MultiMap and its 11.8 miles (28 minutes) from WHL and guess what, the Olympic Stadium that thankfully we won't be getting is showing as exactly the same in sistance 11.8 miles (but 27 minutes) - interesting thought! Good parking and easy access with good travel links. And we wont be coming out of the tunnel to a red and white stadium if we shared with Woolwich!
Have you been to Wembley it's not exactly the easiest place to get in and out of aka White Hart Lane!!!
Share with the twats down the road no thanks even as a last resort. I rather play on the playing fields in Edmonton.
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Let's go to upton park for a bit, when west ham go to the OS. :-p
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This is a really daft topic. For a start we can't use Wembley because of the restrictions regarding the amount of times it can be used in a year. There is no way Ars*nal would want to share their stadium and financially don't need to.
On another point, if we do eventually build a bigger stadium don't expect the club to spend a fortune on players or their wages as it will take about ten years to pay off the debt first. Until that point we won't be able to buy a pot to p155 in. So with a development time of about 4 years and a ten year debt we should be on line for about 2025, by which time I may well be dead !!
The potential development is about increasing the profile of the club and making the share holders richer. Please don't get drawn in my propaganda
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Strange how its all gone quite at WHL about this topic! Essentially, to gate receipts up and compete at the highest level, something has to be done and fast. An alternative is to build a further tier of seats on the existing land. That will yield a further 20,000 plus seats and there would be little encoachment on neighbouring land except for the build phase. Planning permission could only be challenged on reducing light to neighbouring properties, but it gets around a lot of the issues that are stalling THFC PLC moving forward. The downside is that during building, a quarter of the stadium would be empty. In the end, we stay at our "home". :dance: Any thoughts?
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Strange how its all gone quite at WHL about this topic! Essentially, to gate receipts up and compete at the highest level, something has to be done and fast. An alternative is to build a further tier of seats on the existing land. That will yield a further 20,000 plus seats and there would be little encoachment on neighbouring land except for the build phase. Planning permission could only be challenged on reducing light to neighbouring properties, but it gets around a lot of the issues that are stalling THFC PLC moving forward. The downside is that during building, a quarter of the stadium would be empty. In the end, we stay at our "home". :dance: Any thoughts?
They spent years going that line and it's not possible. The south and north stand were built so they could accommodate another tier, however the west and east would have to be rebuilt. The total cost apparently would exceed the build of a new ground and the council probably wouldn't give us planning permission because they wouldn't make out of it. The club has options, to go with the original plan to redevelop WHL or to move all together. The first option was more realistic when it looked like we may get a world cup, but Levy will not lay out all the money himself. The second option is also very difficult because there is little land to develop in London and if he moves us to far from our routes people like me will refuse to attend matches.
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I wonder where we go from here. Apart from the appeal that Levy has put in about that Olympic Stadium, has anyone heard anything else? Has Levy accepted that we stay and do nothing?
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Levy is waiting for results from the court hearing.
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So is the thinking that he is preferring the Olympic Stadium ?
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Of course he would prefer that. It saves the club 200 million pounds which is a crazy amount of money!
f**k Stratford.
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makes you wonder where it will all end!
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Levy's not giving up on Stratford! Link: http://www.tottenhamhotspur.com/news/articles/club-statement-090511.html (http://www.tottenhamhotspur.com/news/articles/club-statement-090511.html)
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Would be my worst nightmare, all the years of supporting Spurs to be destroyed by one decision.
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I know its been asked before, but what the hell would we be called? Possibly go back the the original name of Hotspurs. Woolwich had to drop their first name when they moved.
Orient wont be too happy about any team going there despite the help we in particular given them, which I would understand. The whole thing looks a mess, but where else is there with all the obstacles for NPD?
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A place in Chigwell is being looked at but with us moving away from Chigwell (training ground) we have no chance.
I pray to god that we don't move, I'd rather go back to being a mid table team with Rasiak leading our line.
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I guess one option would be that we could capitalise on "London" as there is no team using it........and it could have the benefit of attracting investment. London Hotspur?
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Change our name? That would be a great way to lose half of all our supporters. I support Tottenham Hotspur, not any other s**t name. Change the name and the club is dead to me.
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Thats the trouble (and I feel the same btw), so I wonder why Levy is even considering a move - can we really be THFC if we are in Stratford? Personally, I don't think Levy will succeed, so I question his motives.......and it costs a few bob to mount these challenges too.
Is it possible that he thinks he can "scare" Haringey into caving in on the basis that we wouldn't be there anymore? If he thinks that, its all too obvious and could prove futile, backfiring in his face.
whatever is going on, it needs to be sorted. We need a 60,000 seater stadium to get the revenue to be able to pay top dollar wages if we are serious about competing at the very top. Just hope they get on with it or we'll still be debating this in 5 years time.
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Just a thought............with the Hammers relegated, will they still want the Olympic Stadium? Alos, with Levy sirring it with a judicial review, it may be too much for Gold & Sullivan.........any thoughts?
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This issue will go on and on. Levy will get his way but them West Ham will appeal and so on.
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Hopefully, the issue will be sorted as soon as possible to give the club some direction
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We are Tottenham Hotspur, if we move away from Tottenham we will lose that name, I could handle being just Spurs or Team Hotspur (or sumin which keeps our original name) but anything else and it would be like killing the club! Couldnt support as I do now if the name changed hugely it wouldnt be us! Would still follow the club as wouldnt support another EPL team I just couldnt!
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Team Hotspur? Good god.
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Team Hotspur? Good god.
There seems to have been a cross-over on to another thread about this ("maybe I've been a tad.....") but I guess that happens when there is a flow of comment
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Team Hotspur? Good god.
PMSL thought ya would all like that one :hide:, we would get called that if someone like Richard Branson took over lol
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Team Hotspur? Good god.
PMSL thought ya would all like that one :hide:, we would get called that if someone like Richard Branson took over lol
Anything but Tottenham or Spurs would be crazy! We won't be filling that 60k ground!
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Totally agreed mate our identity would go straight down the s**tter!